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A ridiculous MPD - 1847 $5

BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 24, 2018 3:17AM in U.S. Coin Forum

The 1847 $5's have a few MPD's which have become quite common to see slabbed as a minor variety. The vast majority of these have barely noticeable 7 peaking out from the denticles (FS-301) and seem to be just as common as the normal 1847 $5. There is one MPD, FS-302, which features the "1" dramatically placed at Liberty's throat, nearly 1/3rd of the way up the face of the coin. I always look for these when viewing half eagles and in 10 years I have never found one until about 3 months ago on a well known and well respected dealers site. I gave him a small premium to his ask for the variety which deserves a premium.

The coin itself is PCGS EF45 CAC and shows in the images a few lines which are not noticeable in hand, my poor lighting set up bringing them all out.

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  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very cool!!

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!!!

    Congrats on your pickup.

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  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a really cool MPD. Thanks for showing it to us.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AWesome coin, @Boosibri
    Someone was having a bad day when that punch was applied.
    I like those repunchings so much more than the "in the denticles" types.
    Never found them interesting.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Similar to Snow 1 in the neck. Nice find. Congrats!

  • NicNic Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really cool. Never knew it existed.

    Thanks for posting!

  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite a number of left-to-right hairlines or scratches?

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  • CharlotteDudeCharlotteDude Posts: 3,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting MPD variety - never seen such an errant punch. Thanks for sharing!

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,195 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's really cool. Maybe the mint worker sneezed just as the hammer was coming down?

  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is pretty cool and if you know what to look for, it’s very noticeable.

  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    Neat... I used to own this 1847/7 in denticles MPD.

    It luckily sold on eBay at a profit just as I was walking up the stairs from the basement with an insane heating system repair quote. Which luckily thanks to YouTube I fixed on my own for $1,370.00 less than the service guy wanted.

    Do you remember what was wrong with your system? I work in HVAC so I’m curious.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a neat MPD!

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this definitely a "1"? The crossbar looks thinner. Could it be a dropped letter?

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:

    @Broadstruck said:
    Neat... I used to own this 1847/7 in denticles MPD.

    It luckily sold on eBay at a profit just as I was walking up the stairs from the basement with an insane heating system repair quote. Which luckily thanks to YouTube I fixed on my own for $1,370.00 less than the service guy wanted.

    Do you remember what was wrong with your system? I work in HVAC so I’m curious.

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:

    @Broadstruck said:
    Neat... I used to own this 1847/7 in denticles MPD.

    It luckily sold on eBay at a profit just as I was walking up the stairs from the basement with an insane heating system repair quote. Which luckily thanks to YouTube I fixed on my own for $1,370.00 less than the service guy wanted.

    Do you remember what was wrong with your system? I work in HVAC so I’m curious.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome!

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1847 is a great year for MPD's. I have made (attributed) two (of the three in PCGS holders) 25C MPDs.

    That is a nice piece of old gold! ;)

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  • AkbeezAkbeez Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very Cool! But I agree that the serif is not the same as the date 1. Where would that have come from? Any chance of a clash?

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  • kevinjkevinj Posts: 982 ✭✭✭

    These two 1847 $5 MPD varieties were listed in Breen's encyclopedia, also CP, also in my MPD book.

    When I studied these in the 90s, I found that there were not uncommon, would see them listed in Teletrade.

    Had overlaid the 1 of the date over the 1 in the neck, perfect fit.

    The skinny serif on top of the 1 in the neck is more likely due to two reasons.
    1. The digits on the date punch are thinner on top than the bottom, this creates a pointed top and easier to punch into the die. If only the top of the digit touches, it would create a lighter image.
    2. The date punch was more likely dropped at an angle with the right side lower, producing a greater depth of image strike on the right side of the 1 than the serif.

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