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1914s buffalo nickel looks to be way under graded?

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

This is for sale on eBay now and was only graded an ms62. Sure looks better to me. What say you?

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And a Caci green bean to boot!

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 is correct.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice...but 62 looks right to me.....Cheers, RickO

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    And a Caci green bean to boot!

    It's gold bro.
    Priced as an MS65.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From Bowers..."Today, such coins that used to be graded as About Uncirculated (AU) are now often graded as MS-60, MS-61, and MS-62."

    Both a top TPGS and CAC has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wouldn't buy it at a 65 price, no way. From the picture it doesn't look like it has the luster that (IMO) a 65 needs. They are really milking that gold sticker for all its worth. Again, my opinion may differ from others. Looks like a 3 or 4 to me.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We don't have the benefit of examining the coin in hand like the grader did. Obviously the coin was held and rotated and found to have luster breaks on the high points.

    It's really too bad. The coin is extremely close to (if not) a full strike. San Francisco seemed to have ironed out the feeder problems that plagued the 1913 mintage of Buffs.

    It's really not unusual to find 14-S hammered like this. Some very beautiful coins are around. The late die state reverse (as evidenced by the flow lines) is still sharp and detailed.

    It can't go higher than 62 by grade, but it would not be out of bounds to ask a 65 price, because I think the quality of the coin would support a higher price.

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    From Bowers..."Today, such coins that used to be graded as About Uncirculated (AU) are now often graded as MS-60, MS-61, and MS-62."

    Both a top TPGS and CAC has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!

    Bro. It's GOLD. CAC thinks it is better than MS62.

  • clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Luster looks flat, I don't see it any higher than a 63.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2018 11:05AM

    @abcde12345 said:

    @Insider2 said:
    From Bowers..."Today, such coins that used to be graded as About Uncirculated (AU) are now often graded as MS-60, MS-61, and MS-62."

    Both a top TPGS and CAC has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!

    Bro. It's GOLD. CAC thinks it is better than MS62.

    I stand corrected! I forgot CAC has gold beans.

    I'll correct my original post:

    A top TPGS has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62! CAC and members here (including me) think it is WORTH MORE MONEY than a 62! :p

  • batumibatumi Posts: 900 ✭✭✭✭

    @clarkbar04 said:
    Luster looks flat, I don't see it any higher than a 63.

    I would gladly pay 64 money, even though I am a little suspicious of the blue toning. I find it attractive, but MS 65 money-no way.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's an incredible strike-looks to be 100% full.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hammered strike and fine example of a 62, but agree with the others, 62.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    It's fine as a 63, and apparently CAC seems to think the same.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That third grade bump is conveniently worth $1000... ok.

    If they really believe it's a 65, they would get it in a 65 holder IMO. This sort of thing is a problem.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    RE: "....has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!"

    Bologna. No amount of labeling will restore worn high point detail and field luster. A correctly graded AU coin is always an AU coin. :)

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The seller is on crack to expect 65 money for that coin. The luster does not look fresh (from the photo) and I don't like the color - I am surprised it beaned at all. JA was probably thinking 63 with the gold bean, not 65.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I expect that CAC likes it as a 63 and asking 63+ money might find a fish. But I hope nobody goes for that whopper 65 money asking price, the coin is not worth it imo.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sure they'll find that "special someone" that'll fork over $1500+ for a $300 coin...

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    RE: "....has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!"

    Bologna. No amount of labeling will restore worn high point detail and field luster. A correctly graded AU coin is always an AU coin. :)

    Get with the times Roger. The MS grade has been changed FOR DECADES. It all started long ago with "Cabinet Friction." :(

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    _Bologna. No amount of labeling will restore worn high point detail and field luster. A correctly graded AU coin is always an AU coin. _

    Old school was let out of session here decades ago Roger.

    I pine for the days when the only numbers used for coins was dollar numbers as in "how much do you want?" or "how much will you give me?"

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reality is reality. A label does not "make it so." Buying into the falsehood changes nothing.

    :)

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What am I missing? Does this 1914-S nickel have wear? Looks unc to me but I don't get the gold sticker pump up.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,449 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Choice uncirculated maybe but certainly not a gem.

    Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 said:
    Choice uncirculated maybe but certainly not a gem.

    I said it could go for 65 money. That is a high ask, to be sure. Anyone can ask anything for a coin. I would be comfortable at no more than 64 money. That, for me, is really pushing it.

    Hope that clears things up.

    Pete

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