1914s buffalo nickel looks to be way under graded?

This is for sale on eBay now and was only graded an ms62. Sure looks better to me. What say you?
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And a Caci green bean to boot!
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62 is correct.
Nice...but 62 looks right to me.....Cheers, RickO
It's gold bro.
Priced as an MS65.
From Bowers..."Today, such coins that used to be graded as About Uncirculated (AU) are now often graded as MS-60, MS-61, and MS-62."
Both a top TPGS and CAC has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!
I wouldn't buy it at a 65 price, no way. From the picture it doesn't look like it has the luster that (IMO) a 65 needs. They are really milking that gold sticker for all its worth. Again, my opinion may differ from others. Looks like a 3 or 4 to me.
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We don't have the benefit of examining the coin in hand like the grader did. Obviously the coin was held and rotated and found to have luster breaks on the high points.
It's really too bad. The coin is extremely close to (if not) a full strike. San Francisco seemed to have ironed out the feeder problems that plagued the 1913 mintage of Buffs.
It's really not unusual to find 14-S hammered like this. Some very beautiful coins are around. The late die state reverse (as evidenced by the flow lines) is still sharp and detailed.
It can't go higher than 62 by grade, but it would not be out of bounds to ask a 65 price, because I think the quality of the coin would support a higher price.
If i ramble too much.................just kick me.
Pete
Bro. It's GOLD. CAC thinks it is better than MS62.
Luster looks flat, I don't see it any higher than a 63.
I stand corrected! I forgot CAC has gold beans.
I'll correct my original post:
A top TPGS has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62! CAC and members here (including me) think it is WORTH MORE MONEY than a 62!
I would gladly pay 64 money, even though I am a little suspicious of the blue toning. I find it attractive, but MS 65 money-no way.
That's an incredible strike-looks to be 100% full.
Hammered strike and fine example of a 62, but agree with the others, 62.
It's fine as a 63, and apparently CAC seems to think the same.
That third grade bump is conveniently worth $1000... ok.
If they really believe it's a 65, they would get it in a 65 holder IMO. This sort of thing is a problem.
Collector, occasional seller
RE: "....has determined that your AU-58 nickel is correctly graded commercially as an MS-62!"
Bologna. No amount of labeling will restore worn high point detail and field luster. A correctly graded AU coin is always an AU coin.
The seller is on crack to expect 65 money for that coin. The luster does not look fresh (from the photo) and I don't like the color - I am surprised it beaned at all. JA was probably thinking 63 with the gold bean, not 65.
I expect that CAC likes it as a 63 and asking 63+ money might find a fish. But I hope nobody goes for that whopper 65 money asking price, the coin is not worth it imo.
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I'm sure they'll find that "special someone" that'll fork over $1500+ for a $300 coin...
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Get with the times Roger. The MS grade has been changed FOR DECADES. It all started long ago with "Cabinet Friction."
_Bologna. No amount of labeling will restore worn high point detail and field luster. A correctly graded AU coin is always an AU coin. _
Old school was let out of session here decades ago Roger.
I pine for the days when the only numbers used for coins was dollar numbers as in "how much do you want?" or "how much will you give me?"
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Reality is reality. A label does not "make it so." Buying into the falsehood changes nothing.
What am I missing? Does this 1914-S nickel have wear? Looks unc to me but I don't get the gold sticker pump up.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Choice uncirculated maybe but certainly not a gem.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
I said it could go for 65 money. That is a high ask, to be sure. Anyone can ask anything for a coin. I would be comfortable at no more than 64 money. That, for me, is really pushing it.
Hope that clears things up.
Pete