Natural toning? Two colorful Jefferson Nickels
Aspie_Rocco
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New pick ups with sort of unusual looking colors. I like them and want to send in for trueviews. Thoughts and opinions 
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Natural toning? Two colorful Jefferson Nickels
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Tell ya the truth and IMHO, looks like they both may have been dipped sometime in their past
Steve
Doesn't look natural, or at least natural in the sense of achieved over a long time. Whether or not a tpg will consider it ma is a completely different discussion.
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
I do not have any other similarly toned Jeffs. Out of close to 1,000 I never saw this type of tone before. It is attractive and one has a minor ddo, but I suspect it is the copper in the coin reacting with some chemical the coin was exposed to. The seller has/had multiple examples with similar colors.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
Toning is a corrosion/rust that occurs/develops/etches into within the surface metal/molecules of the coin. It's just not a mere layer of paint/color that has been applied topically to the surfaces. Once a coin has corroded, there's no way to fix it. There are chemicals that will alter the colors to transparent but the damage remains. A mechanical means would need to be applied to the corrosion, like the use of a small buffer/dremel tool. But one could never rebuild the original surface of the coin. Proof coins are perfect examples of this where it's very easy to see whether they have been dipped. But my point is, the experience gained over time will help one tell if the coin has been messed with, how in-depth the toning versus a topical layer of color. There's little ways to tell the differences from a picture other than noting a pattern and a natural flow of one color to the next that should show......if the camera can capture this. The one directional flow of the toning would indicate a brush was used to apply the chemical that caused that area to tone. But even this suggestion is flawed since it can't be ruled out that a natural means or setting over time could have caused the toning as well. But how deep the corrosion is a way to tell and only by high magnification and not everyone is set up to do this if this is done by anyone at all.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Here's a coin with similar toning, maybe. PCGS thought it was natural toning, MS64FS (has 6 steps and super nice strike, btw) But, out of curiosity I cracked it out and sent it to NGc and they thought it to have questionable color. What I think is what matters because I have seen scores of coins with similar toning in coin folders.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Probably not AT but would likely get a QT.
Probably natural, but could be due to a former dip and poor neutralizing... Not coins I would save, but many people like colorful tarnish... Cheers, RickO
the top one looks ok to me, so does the revese bottom. the rest im not so sure about
Interesting that they are all 1938. The splotchy toning is likely due to a production related issue at the Mint.