Holy Crapoly, The Chinese Counterfeiters Are Getting Brazen

Rittenhouse

Check out this eBay listing: https://ebay.com/itm/1856-s-US-Liberty-Head-20-Gold-Plated-Coin-In-Grade-Case-Top-Quality-Rare-Coin/263995747367?hash=item3d775f6c27:g:bZoAAOSwts9byGg2:rk:31:pf:0

"we have myself factory press coin .large 3000 different coins and molds .we also receive Custom made .please contact me with free . All coins are exact copy all with gold plating"

earlycoins

Reported

partagas

It is really scary, what's next fake CAC stickers as well.

AlexinPA

Item location: China.

davewesen

they have a branch office In Ireland
https://ebay.com/itm/USA-1-Dollar-Draped-Bust-Dollar-Small-Eagle-90-Silver-1795-Rare-Coin-Limited/263989301298?hash=item3d76fd1032:g:028AAOSwvO5bwwU3

AUandAG

Unfortunately China does not discourage counterfeiting. It employs people. They are allowed, unless of course, it's a Chinese coin post 1949.
The makers probably don't know counterfeiting is a problem elsewhere. They try to put out a good enough product that they will get a lot of orders on. Therefore, they get better with time...

bob

CascadeChris

Gonzo

thisistheshow

@AUandAG said:
Unfortunately China does not discourage counterfeiting. It employs people. They are allowed, unless of course, it's a Chinese coin post 1949.
The makers probably don't know counterfeiting is a problem elsewhere. They try to put out a good enough product that they will get a lot of orders on. Therefore, they get better with time...

bob

Interesting observation

thisistheshow

Already gone it looks like

metalmeister

Fake coins are bad enough. This has been going on for Centuries. Fake coins in Fake slabs are illegal, immoral, un ethical, and just wrong! They used to hang counterfeiters. Good grief our hobby is under attack. PCGS please send the Big Boys to China with a big hammer.

Rittenhouse

There really needs to be a two-prong approach. First, make this counterfeiting (including all commercial goods) a trade issue. Raise the import duties on China and other bad actors until they stop it.

Second, pass a fed law prohibiting the listing of modern counterfeits sale with hefty fines for auction sites that fail to police listings.

Shoot, the latter may be all that is necessary. Hit eBay and others with a couple $100M fines and it will come to a screeching halt.

1630Boston

@metalmeister said:

Good grief our hobby is under attack. PCGS please send the Big Boys to China with a big hammer.

grip

Hope they don't start messing with my Chinese take out orders.

johnny9434

poof, the whole page is gone

Namvet69

I still like Chinese handcuffs, especially the first time I put them on an innocent kid. Peace Roy

Davideo

@Rittenhouse said:
There really needs to be a two-prong approach. First, make this counterfeiting (including all commercial goods) a trade issue. Raise the import duties on China and other bad actors until they stop it.

Second, pass a fed law prohibiting the listing of modern counterfeits sale with hefty fines for auction sites that fail to police listings.

Shoot, the latter may be all that is necessary. Hit eBay and others with a couple $100M fines and it will come to a screeching halt.

Doesn't eBay already police listings? It's seems that obvious counterfeits are removed very quickly, like this one.

astrorat

For those of us who don't see the thread quickly enough (i.e. before the listing is ended) ... PLEASE download and post the relevant images. The thread becomes useless as a learning opportunity if the only remnant of the listing is a dead link (killed by eBay).

BuffaloIronTail

"Please contact me with free".?

Pete

blitzdude

@partagas said:
It is really scary, what's next fake CAC stickers as well.

Are you suggesting they haven't faked stickers yet? Coins, slabs, stickers which of the 3 would be easiest to fake? EVERYTHING is counterfeited in China.

BUFFNIXX

@Rittenhouse said:
Check out this eBay listing: https://ebay.com/itm/1856-s-US-Liberty-Head-20-Gold-Plated-Coin-In-Grade-Case-Top-Quality-Rare-Coin/263995747367?hash=item3d775f6c27:g:bZoAAOSwts9byGg2:rk:31:pf:0

"we have myself factory press coin .large 3000 different coins and molds .we also receive Custom made .please contact me with free . All coins are exact copy all with gold plating"

When you start a thread like this you need to imbed the actual photo instead as sometimes as in the case the auction has been taken down and the link is of no value.

astrorat

@BUFFNIXX said:
When you start a thread like this you need to imbed the actual photo instead as sometimes as in the case the auction has been taken down and the link is of no value.

Great idea!

ricko

Listing now gone... I agree with others that recommend capturing the image when posting... so often it gets taken down before many can see it. Makes for a missed learning opportunity. Cheers, RickO

3keepSECRETif2rDEAD

...maybe we should start counterfeiting post 1949 chinese coinage right here in the great USA...after all, they have 10x more buyers over there than we do here...game on baby!

burfle23

Here's one that has hit a couple of times- 1879-cc "capped die"; not even close.

burfle23

And a real kick in the teeth, Yolanda's coin on AliExpress is advertising PCGS certified 1833 large cents for $115.00; looks like they helped themselves to Heritage's images of this one.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/a/1233-3502.s

They even show some of their manufacturing techniques for these; it would be interesting to see how close these are to the genuine article...

Mesh

https://www.dhgate.com/product/1902-s-collectible-pcgs-graded-ms65-liberty/422338184.html#s2-19-1b;searl|0769321368

FullStrike

Can you imagine the mayhem if the US Braintrust in the DC swamp ever decided to make those Trillion Dollar Coins that were discussed a few years ago? Or how about if Bitcoin was an actual Coin , instead of just a figment?

Hmmmmm? Maybe it would be cool to buy $1,000,000,000,000 00 Coins by the Roll at perhaps $5.00 each? Certainly a better deal than 200 Gadzillion Zimbabwe Notes at $189.00 each.

😣

Coinstartled

@grip said:
Hope they don't start messing with my Chinese take out orders.

Heh heh.

Namvet69

Confucius say:
Man who farts in church
Sits in own pew.

Peace Roy