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The Best Standing Liberty Quarter I Ever Saw

BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

Is this one. Herman MacNeils second obverse from August 19, 1916:

What a beautiful rendition!

Pete

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,378 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes! Lovely!

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2018 7:09AM

    I always thought this would have been the best. To bad it was not released. The mint could make a ton releasing this maybe make 100,000 or so to keep the price reasonable. Both is proof and unc too!!
    (And lets not forget reverse proof, three different styles.)

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX said:
    I always thought this would have been the best. To bad it was not released. The mint could make a ton releasing this maybe make 100,000 or so to keep the price reasonable. Both is proof and unc too!!
    (And lets not forget reverse proof, three different styles.)

    YES ! And gold too, and minted at west point, but not mint marked. :p
    I love the angry dolphin there, but always thought liberty could be a little more perky.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Departed member MFH and I tossed those plaster casts back and forth like frisbees at SB lot viewing years ago... Good times! :'(

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The above two pictures show a coin that is now for sale on flea bay. For $150.00.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "medal" might have looked better if converted to T2.

    Andy Lustig

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a lot of beautiful designs that were never used. Since the U.S. Mint can't come up with anything we should dust them off and use them NOW.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Losing the dolphins and replacing IGWT with EPU would improve the design. So would a slight...lift.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, very nice !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BARE BREASTS !!!....EEK !!
    :o

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2018 3:08PM

    The OP's reverse photo is of a design made for the 1917 revision in Jan-Feb.
    The models are made of cast bronze, not plaster.
    (I authenticated them for the original finders and prepared the initial auction descriptions based on original research.)

    PS: That medal is down right ugly !
    Also, MacNeil did not approve of shiny polished up "proof" coins or medals and would certainly veto any attempt by the US Mint to make anything except normal "circulation" type and sandblasted medal press proofs.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    The OP's reverse photo is of a design made for the 1917 revision in Jan-Feb.
    The models are made of cast bronze, not plaster.
    (I authenticated them for the original finders and prepared the initial auction descriptions based on original research.)

    PS: That medal is down right ugly !
    Also, MacNeil did not approve of shiny polished up "proof" coins or medals and would certainly veto any attempt by the US Mint to make anything except normal "circulation" type and sandblasted medal press proofs.

    Thanks Ron, knew you would add to the thread. Much appreciated.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I suspect the design would not have struck up well on a regular issue coin. The relief appears to be too high in several spots. It is also a very "busy" design.

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the obverse, the solo reverse is out of whack beause the star in front of the eagle looks wrong.

    I get it, he placed 13 star there, but he needed a better way to do that.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bryce has a killer toned one. 1917-P Ty 1 I believe.

    It is a beautiful coin.

    GrandAm :)
  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bryce has a killer toned one. 1917-P Ty 1 I believe.

    It is a beautiful coin.

    GrandAm :)
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @291fifth said:
    I suspect the design would not have struck up well on a regular issue coin. The relief appears to be too high in several spots. It is also a very "busy" design.

    The new obverse was made to address several artistic and technical problems with the original submission of May 1916. We have no examples of pattern quarters from this design, although several were struck. Also, no technical report on the design's striking characteristics has been discovered. Since the Mint Director refused to have MacNeil consulted, all problems with the 1916 quarters are entirely the Mint's responsibility. (The 2016 gold quarters demonstrate that necessary detail and clarity was present in the original casts.)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I truly wish we could return to true art on our coins... It is sad to look at U.S. coins in comparison to so many other countries....not all, but many. Cheers, RickO

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking design for sure!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Here's the one @GRANDAM mentioned. I got it from @TomB.

    image

    I like the design the OP posted, but I actually like the actual mint product a bit better.

    Super strike on that one! Can't get any fuller, IMHOP. You have every reason to like it. Now, if ALL were struck that good.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first 1917 obverse was created by George Morgan, based on MacNeil's original. As also happened with Peace dollars, Morgan's revised design (1922 HR in this case) produced a better coin than the original artist's work.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seen one, ya seen 'em both.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.

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