congrats! I put a bid of $2388 on it late, but it didnt register because I was lower than someone that sniped just ahead of me. I finished in 4th place. Do you have a Lincoln Registry Set going? I'd like to see the rest of your collection. I hope you plan on getting that TrueView photographed. Post some in-hand photos when you get it.
And do post the story of the beginning of this hunt ... 15 years back would place it in year 2003. Did you try to bid on this and lose it back them? Share the story.
I think I may be able to build a top ten set in the "toned" category. I don't have deep enough pockets to pay what most 66BN's are going for. I just have to scrap around for the left overs after the top set holders have secured their gems. I made an acceptation for this one, however. As I said, I've been looking for it since 2003 when I started my all brown set. Yes, that was before there was a registry set for brown Lincolns. Heck, that may be before the registry... I cant remember. I cant tell you how many dealers have told me (in a nicer way) that I was basically stupid for turning my back on red and red-brown coins for brown ones. Heck, I had that experience at the last show I went to. I don't try to argue the point with them. They have their personal point of view which is fine.
To me, I value consistency. I looked at what it'd cost for an all red ore near all red set and was like.... "No enough moo-la for that." But there are some beautiful browns out there. I thought... "You know, if I stick with browns, I may even eventually have a complete set in MS65 and better." To my mind, that would be an admirable goal... attainable as a life goal, and something that wouldn't get dwarfed by the mind blowing all red sets that are put together by people with much deeper pockets than my own. So I set out to build the set. I always looked at the coins with the lowest populations only because I figure they might only show up once every several years. For instance, I just got my 26-S in February of last year. For the bulk of the time that I was looking for that one, there were only 4 of them. I passed on two NGC examples. Then I passed on a gen 1 26-S in 65BN because it was just "bla" looking. My patience was rewarded because all of the sudden the pop shot up to nine. Shortly thereafter, I procured a very choice 26-S in PCGS 65BN from David Lawrence.
I was able to buy the only other 65BN 23-S that I've seen since I started. It was an NGC example. Well, in reality, I bought it for a dealer friend of mine who is also working on a Lincoln set. He doesn't do ebay, I called him about it when it popped up since I'd decided not to go for it (lack of funds.... crummy timing). He said he wanted me to get it for him so I bought it and passed it on to him at cost. IMHO, that one wouldn't cross, though. Though it is pristine and has an absolute hammered strike, it has nearly no luster.
When I saw this one go up for auction I thought, "Well, I really would like to have an all MS65 and better set. I'd rather all of the early ones be in brown for consistency." This example is, no doubt, a recently certified example that brought the PCGS population up to 3. ...keep in mind I've not seen another PCGS 65BN example offered since 2003. I was like, well... if I want this, I'm going to fight for it with hundred dollar bills. I certainly didn't want to wait another 15 years to see another example offered. To exacerbate the situation, less than three months ago I was over at the house of the affore mentioned dealer friend to whom I had secured the NGC 65BN 23-S. He got a little "uh hu" about him having a 65BN 23-S and me not having one. I left his house thinking... man I'd love to buy one that would just blow his away. But then I was like, "Who am I kidding, there's only 2 in PCGS 65BN." Then this one hit ebay To be honest, unknown to the second highest bidder, he was really just deciding how much he was going to cost me... or at least that's how I approached my bid amount.
I'll see about getting it imaged by PCGS. All I have is a iphone 6s for pics or I'd have already imaged all of my coins.
Anyway, there's the "back story," as it is called on Phineas and Ferb.
Ahh so you're the one. Congrats on the coin.I would have been higher in the bidding war on this but I finally found a 23s after a few years(not 15 lol)
I remember that 18-S well and have thought of it many times since you bought it. I’m happy it is with someone who apprieciates it as much as me. Side point: If you ever decide to sell it, I will always be interested.
Beautiful 1923-S. They're hard enough to find in high mint state, but to find one with these colors is next to impossible. Can't wait to see some good photos............which it deserves.
@LincolnCentMan awesome coin! Great eye appeal. I read this thread before and the colors and story of BN cents sent me combing through eBay listings.
If I end up buying one of these colorful BN I will blame you lol.
Let me know if you get one. Also, there are many knock out collections in the toned lincoln registry. I hate to suggest a few because everyone works hard on and is proud of there accomplishment. I’d hate to leave someone out.
There are several sets where the owners are CLEARLY focusing on eye candy over numeric grade. Those sets are spectacular!
My personal goal is all in 65BN or better from 1909-1933. I have no plans to fight for the nicest Browns from 1934 to 1958.
It's clearly a brown, in-hand. The blues are toning highlights that appear as you rotate the cartwheel. It does have some traces of red in the protected areas, but not nearly enough for the RB designation. I've "seen" three coins in PCGS brown holders that a strong argument could be made for RB. VDB coins has a 21-S in PCGS 65BN that's pretty close. I have an 18-D along the same lines. I have a 38-S in a 64BN holder... lets just say I'll upgrade it if I find one in a PCGS holder that is truly brown.
All-in-all, I think PCGS does really well with their color designations.
23-S is BRUTAL!
That goes along with 24-S, 13-S, 14-D, 14-S, 15-S, 25-S, 24-D, 11-S, 25-S, 26-S, 27-S...am I forgetting anything here?
Some people scoff at the "lowly Lincolns" but they can be a deep challenge if you desire higher mint state examples.
That unnecessary comment been said, here is what I really mean to say:
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I'm very happy for you! I'm glad your search has been completed and your diligence has been rewarded! So much for your savings account but I shouldn't talk. My 401K is sitting in blue PCGS boxes and late at night, I swear there is snarky laughter coming from somewhere inside those boxes.
Here is one of the culprits, which admittingly is paltry compared to yours
David, Your 23-S is spectacular. I limit my Lincoln collection to toned proofs. And I can appreciate what you had to pay for this coin. My IHC PR set of toned Indians (Paha Sapa Indians) was expensive to complete as there is a significant premium for toned coins. NT like your 23-S and hopefully dodging some AT coins along the say. I think that you did very well for the price.
Get a TrueView and then have it printed on a canvas that you can put on your wall.
Early Lincolns are a challenge to be sure. Even when you find the coin in the grade you want they can still be kinda ugly. Nice pickup on a well struck 1923-S.
@ChristopherCoins said:
Early Lincolns are a challenge to be sure. Even when you find the coin in the grade you want they can still be kinda ugly. Nice pickup on a well struck 1923-S.
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congrats! I put a bid of $2388 on it late, but it didnt register because I was lower than someone that sniped just ahead of me. I finished in 4th place. Do you have a Lincoln Registry Set going? I'd like to see the rest of your collection. I hope you plan on getting that TrueView photographed. Post some in-hand photos when you get it.
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My Toned Lincoln Registry Set
And do post the story of the beginning of this hunt ... 15 years back would place it in year 2003. Did you try to bid on this and lose it back them? Share the story.
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My Toned Lincoln Registry Set
Thanks. Yes, I have a registry set,https://pcgs.com/setregistry/half-cents/lincoln-cents-specialty-sets/lincoln-cents-toned-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1909-1958/publishedset/113097. I hope that posted correctly.
I think I may be able to build a top ten set in the "toned" category. I don't have deep enough pockets to pay what most 66BN's are going for. I just have to scrap around for the left overs after the top set holders have secured their gems. I made an acceptation for this one, however. As I said, I've been looking for it since 2003 when I started my all brown set. Yes, that was before there was a registry set for brown Lincolns. Heck, that may be before the registry... I cant remember. I cant tell you how many dealers have told me (in a nicer way) that I was basically stupid for turning my back on red and red-brown coins for brown ones. Heck, I had that experience at the last show I went to. I don't try to argue the point with them. They have their personal point of view which is fine.
To me, I value consistency. I looked at what it'd cost for an all red ore near all red set and was like.... "No enough moo-la for that." But there are some beautiful browns out there. I thought... "You know, if I stick with browns, I may even eventually have a complete set in MS65 and better." To my mind, that would be an admirable goal... attainable as a life goal, and something that wouldn't get dwarfed by the mind blowing all red sets that are put together by people with much deeper pockets than my own. So I set out to build the set. I always looked at the coins with the lowest populations only because I figure they might only show up once every several years. For instance, I just got my 26-S in February of last year. For the bulk of the time that I was looking for that one, there were only 4 of them. I passed on two NGC examples. Then I passed on a gen 1 26-S in 65BN because it was just "bla" looking. My patience was rewarded because all of the sudden the pop shot up to nine. Shortly thereafter, I procured a very choice 26-S in PCGS 65BN from David Lawrence.
I was able to buy the only other 65BN 23-S that I've seen since I started. It was an NGC example. Well, in reality, I bought it for a dealer friend of mine who is also working on a Lincoln set. He doesn't do ebay, I called him about it when it popped up since I'd decided not to go for it (lack of funds.... crummy timing). He said he wanted me to get it for him so I bought it and passed it on to him at cost. IMHO, that one wouldn't cross, though. Though it is pristine and has an absolute hammered strike, it has nearly no luster.
When I saw this one go up for auction I thought, "Well, I really would like to have an all MS65 and better set. I'd rather all of the early ones be in brown for consistency." This example is, no doubt, a recently certified example that brought the PCGS population up to 3. ...keep in mind I've not seen another PCGS 65BN example offered since 2003. I was like, well... if I want this, I'm going to fight for it with hundred dollar bills. I certainly didn't want to wait another 15 years to see another example offered. To exacerbate the situation, less than three months ago I was over at the house of the affore mentioned dealer friend to whom I had secured the NGC 65BN 23-S. He got a little "uh hu" about him having a 65BN 23-S and me not having one. I left his house thinking... man I'd love to buy one that would just blow his away. But then I was like, "Who am I kidding, there's only 2 in PCGS 65BN." Then this one hit ebay To be honest, unknown to the second highest bidder, he was really just deciding how much he was going to cost me... or at least that's how I approached my bid amount.
I'll see about getting it imaged by PCGS. All I have is a iphone 6s for pics or I'd have already imaged all of my coins.
Anyway, there's the "back story," as it is called on Phineas and Ferb.
-David
Talk about blew me out of the water haha. Glad to see it quenched that 15 year thirst.
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Can we start with the basic concept of just finding a nice struck 1923 S...I mean, you got it all!
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I almost spit my drink out when I read your comment on your 14-D!
Nice set!
I almost spit my drink out when I read your comment on your 14-D!
A man has to have priorities....
David
At least you had your priorities straight, girls are temporary, coins are forever.
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Congrats on the 23-S!
Ahh so you're the one. Congrats on the coin.I would have been higher in the bidding war on this but I finally found a 23s after a few years(not 15 lol)
That is a really sweet 63RB! You were blessed to find it so “quickly.”
Thanks for sharing.
very nice new pickup, I still have the 18-s in 66BN that I bought from you in 04.
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I remember that 18-S well and have thought of it many times since you bought it. I’m happy it is with someone who apprieciates it as much as me. Side point: If you ever decide to sell it, I will always be interested.
Great job with the set so far. I like your attitude and focus.
Congrats on the new 23 S. Definitely a tough coin in gem. I like it already but please post some new photos when you get it.
Beautiful 1923-S. They're hard enough to find in high mint state, but to find one with these colors is next to impossible. Can't wait to see some good photos............which it deserves.
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@LincolnCentMan awesome coin! Great eye appeal. I read this thread before and the colors and story of BN cents sent me combing through eBay listings.
If I end up buying one of these colorful BN I will blame you lol.
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s=142753
https://www.autismforums.com/media/albums/acrylic-colors-by-rocco.291/
...a blame I will gladly accept!
Let me know if you get one. Also, there are many knock out collections in the toned lincoln registry. I hate to suggest a few because everyone works hard on and is proud of there accomplishment. I’d hate to leave someone out.
There are several sets where the owners are CLEARLY focusing on eye candy over numeric grade. Those sets are spectacular!
My personal goal is all in 65BN or better from 1909-1933. I have no plans to fight for the nicest Browns from 1934 to 1958.
David
Congrats LincolnCentMan.
I'm by no means an expert in this series...your coin looks like a RB (red brown) to me.
Thats by all means a brown, the rb and bn designation is quite flawed imo..
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It's clearly a brown, in-hand. The blues are toning highlights that appear as you rotate the cartwheel. It does have some traces of red in the protected areas, but not nearly enough for the RB designation. I've "seen" three coins in PCGS brown holders that a strong argument could be made for RB. VDB coins has a 21-S in PCGS 65BN that's pretty close. I have an 18-D along the same lines. I have a 38-S in a 64BN holder... lets just say I'll upgrade it if I find one in a PCGS holder that is truly brown.
All-in-all, I think PCGS does really well with their color designations.
23-S is BRUTAL!
That goes along with 24-S, 13-S, 14-D, 14-S, 15-S, 25-S, 24-D, 11-S, 25-S, 26-S, 27-S...am I forgetting anything here?
Some people scoff at the "lowly Lincolns" but they can be a deep challenge if you desire higher mint state examples.
That unnecessary comment been said, here is what I really mean to say:
CONGRATULATIONS!!
I'm very happy for you! I'm glad your search has been completed and your diligence has been rewarded! So much for your savings account but I shouldn't talk. My 401K is sitting in blue PCGS boxes and late at night, I swear there is snarky laughter coming from somewhere inside those boxes.
Here is one of the culprits, which admittingly is paltry compared to yours
Well done. Enjoy
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David, Your 23-S is spectacular. I limit my Lincoln collection to toned proofs. And I can appreciate what you had to pay for this coin. My IHC PR set of toned Indians (Paha Sapa Indians) was expensive to complete as there is a significant premium for toned coins. NT like your 23-S and hopefully dodging some AT coins along the say. I think that you did very well for the price.
Get a TrueView and then have it printed on a canvas that you can put on your wall.
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Congrats David!
Great story and I love your passion!
That is a beautiful Gem of a Lincoln cent. Glad you were able to secure it.
15 years is certainly a long time.
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https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Early Lincolns are a challenge to be sure. Even when you find the coin in the grade you want they can still be kinda ugly. Nice pickup on a well struck 1923-S.
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Very nice website you have there @ChristopherCoins, as a Lincoln collector I enjoyed looking thru it.
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congratulations on your quest achievement !!!
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