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PCGS certified coin stolen out of mail. Advice?

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  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Why in the heck would a local PD report matter? Theft from the mails is a FEDERAL crime.

    It's like going to MickeyDs and asking for a Whopper.

    I prefer in & out.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Why in the heck would a local PD report matter? Theft from the mails is a FEDERAL crime.

    It's like going to MickeyDs and asking for a Whopper.

    You're right. The local PD probably told him they aren't going to investigate it because they have no jurisdiction over postal crimes. You'd think eBay would know that.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,881 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ms70 said:

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Why in the heck would a local PD report matter? Theft from the mails is a FEDERAL crime.

    It's like going to MickeyDs and asking for a Whopper.

    You're right. The local PD probably told him they aren't going to investigate it because they have no jurisdiction over postal crimes. You'd think eBay would know that.

    Skip eBay and go to PayPal. If that don't work go to your credit card company.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2018 5:12AM

    Update: I got another email saying my police report was not good enough, apparently. They asked for all the same information they wanted yesterday. Momentary frustration.

    So I called eBay customer service, and the guy who answered reviewed my report. He said the information I provided was considerable, and he's closing the case in my favor. :)

    In any event, I'm glad I filed an online police report; it could be helpful if I see the coin for sale on eBay or Craigslist at some future point.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rhedden said:
    Oh yeah, I got your package safely :) I know a coin has two sides, but how many sides does a marble have? :*

    Inside and outside?

    theknowitalltroll;
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Gluggo said:
    So when a coin is stolen and it has a certification number do you report that number to PCGS as stolen? Do you report the stolen coin to the police or only to the postal inspector? Also it appears your postal driver has a history, but looks like the package was tampered with before it arrived. At your local post office.

    A year ago, I bought a $300 PCGS coin on eBay. When it arrived, I tried to enter into my registry set. It said 'cert not valid'. I contacted customer service and they said send pics and they would look into it. A week later, I sent PCGS an email follow-up. A couple weeks later I called again, the agent said their supervisor would call me back. A couple hours later, they told me it had been reported stolen and I should return to seller for refund.

    Have you contacted the seller, with your package pics they might just refund you as they will be 'probably' doing it in the near future anyway.

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The seller wasn't in a good position in this case, as mentioned earlier. He doesn't use USPS insurance, and he told me his insurance has a $500 deductible.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Paypal will handle it so why waste time with Ebay? Kathy had good advice on the sell side. Don't leave any Ebay logo or name on the package.> @rhedden said:

    The seller wasn't in a good position in this case, as mentioned earlier. He doesn't use USPS insurance, and he told me his insurance has a $500 deductible.

    That is irrelevant responsibility is on him to get the coin to you...not just an empty box.

    He is self insuring the first $500 and now is the time to pony up.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel compelled to add this here.
    The whole point of a deductible is that the insuree(is that a word?) shares part of the risk with the insurance company, that's why when you increase your deductible, insurance rates are lower. In this case he agreed to share $500 of risk but is dumping the responsibility of getting a refund on you. This is a seller I would no longer do business with. If he can't afford or isn't willing to self insure for less than his deductible then he really should lower or eliminate it.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see this as an ebay dealer: file a chargeback and let the seller figure out how to recoup his money, or not. I don't know why you are screwing around when the responsibility is on the shipper.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, evn when irrefutably accurate.

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,392 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I feel compelled to add this here.
    The whole point of a deductible is that the insuree(is that a word?) shares part of the risk with the insurance company, that's why when you increase your deductible, insurance rates are lower. In this case he agreed to share $500 of risk but is dumping the responsibility of getting a refund on you. This is a seller I would no longer do business with. If he can't afford or isn't willing to self insure for less than his deductible then he really should lower or eliminate it.

    The "insurer" i.e. seller/shipper shares part of the risk; not the insuree. Yes, the insurer should issue the refund and file the claim for loss.

    theknowitalltroll;

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