I'm learning more about my fellow collectors than I am about Griffey or Bonds!
I will take both of them, and in 20 years so will everyone else. Can't help but look at Tiger Woods right now as a window into the power of a redemption story to wash away all transgressions.
@perkdog said:
It don’t matter if they were mass murderers or not, Mantle and Griffey will always be the most loved baseball heroes of many a grown man lol
By 93 Bonds had 3 MVP trophy's. Griffey didn't get his only 1 until 97. Bonds got 3 well before the steroids allegations: http://hommemuscle.com/ . If you follow baseball Bonds has always been known as one of the best but Griffey was more loved by the media because he was great with them. Bonds always told them to kiss his arse.
@noONEno said:
By 93 Bonds had 3 MVP trophy's. Griffey didn't get his only 1 until 97. Bonds got 3 well before the steroid allegations. If you follow baseball Bonds has always been known as one of the best but Griffey was more loved by the media because he was great with them. Bonds always told them to kiss his arse.
MVP awards not a very good way of determining who's best.
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How do we know Griffey was clean? How do we know when Bonds started using? everyone assumes 1998 or 1999, but he has never admitted or failed a test. I believe it was Mark Mcgwires brother who was a body builder and admitted steroid user who helped Mark start using. He wrote a book and said Mark used steroids from the start. look at some photos of mark from the late 80's and early 90's. he looked pretty thin then, though his brother said he helped him juice back then.
Guys dont need to be musclebound freaks to be on the juice. It is impossible to assume when and whom unless there is an admission or a failed test.
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I'm learning more about my fellow collectors than I am about Griffey or Bonds!
I will take both of them, and in 20 years so will everyone else. Can't help but look at Tiger Woods right now as a window into the power of a redemption story to wash away all transgressions.
-Nathanael
It don’t matter if they were mass murderers or not, Mantle and Griffey will always be the most loved baseball heroes of many a grown man lol
By 93 Bonds had 3 MVP trophy's. Griffey didn't get his only 1 until 97. Bonds got 3 well before the steroids allegations: http://hommemuscle.com/ . If you follow baseball Bonds has always been known as one of the best but Griffey was more loved by the media because he was great with them. Bonds always told them to kiss his arse.
MVP awards not a very good way of determining who's best.
How do we know Griffey was clean? How do we know when Bonds started using? everyone assumes 1998 or 1999, but he has never admitted or failed a test. I believe it was Mark Mcgwires brother who was a body builder and admitted steroid user who helped Mark start using. He wrote a book and said Mark used steroids from the start. look at some photos of mark from the late 80's and early 90's. he looked pretty thin then, though his brother said he helped him juice back then.
Guys dont need to be musclebound freaks to be on the juice. It is impossible to assume when and whom unless there is an admission or a failed test.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I'm going with Griffey. That bastard put a lot of holes in my Yankee fan heart.
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