This guy touched his coin inappropriately

DCW

And I'm offended.

I know it's a circulated old token, but what does an Ebay seller gain by balancing it on his finger for the camera?! I'll tell you what he lost...my hundred dollar bid!
Show me other such acts of vulgarity

thisistheshow

I agree. That is not the right way to handle it. I see this type of picture fairly frequently. I guess you can chalk it up to not knowing the right way, but still...

REALGATOR

Don't let a silly photo get in the way of opportunity.

jesbroken

It's amazing how many you tubes there are with people handling coins barehanded and trying to show someone the correct way to CLEAN coins. Now some are wearing liquid protectorant or whatever that is, but many are not.
Jim

Smudge

Is it dated? Interesting, but mishandled.

AUandAG

If you are worried about his leaving a fingerprint, just rinse it in acetone when you receive it and you'll be good to go.

bob

thefinn

1st - not a coin, it's a token.
2nd - it is circulated and cannot be damaged.
3rd - people that collect tokens don't care - these things were made to circulate.

DIMEMAN

Call in SVU.

PerryHall

He's probably not a coin collector so he doesn't know how to properly hold a coin. Did you ever see how William Devane holds an AGE in those Rosland Capitol commercials on TV?

Onastone

But he was wearing a mask!!!

bolivarshagnasty

Vile and disgusting. I'm offended as well. Now where's that puking cat image?
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DCW

@thefinn said:
1st - not a coin, it's a token.
2nd - it is circulated and cannot be damaged.
3rd - people that collect tokens don't care - these things were made to circulate.

Ok, you're technically right...it's a token. Thread was supposed to be tongue in cheek, and "coin" sounded better.
But you are wrong on the last two points.
Circulated coins (and tokens) can still be damaged. That seems obvious.
And token collectors DO care!
(Why else would I start a thread about it?)

By the way, this is a post exchange token from the 1st Cavalry Division. Good for 5c. And I did bid, just not as strongly.

DNADave

@thefinn said:
1st - not a coin, it's a token.
2nd - it is circulated and cannot be damaged.
3rd - people that collect tokens don't care - these things were made to circulate.

1. Give me a break.
2. No
3. No

jmlanzaf

I'm with @thefinn

It's not a coin, although that's the least of the issues.

It is circulated and can easily be rinsed in acetone to remove finger oils or grime. The finger doesn't bother me. It wouldn't affect my bidding. A circulated coin, medal or token could have been handled at any time in it's history.

fiftysevener

@DCW said:
And I'm offended.

I know it's a circulated old token, but what does an Ebay seller gain by balancing it on his finger for the camera?! I'll tell you what he lost...my hundred dollar bid!
Show me other such acts of vulgarity

Ever watch commercials showing William De something or other grabbing his gold pinching multiple Double Eagles between thumb and fingers ?

Kudbegud

Handling a coin like that is like fingernails on a chalk board to me. Every year when I go and get the new Maui Trade Dollar the clerk invariably picks up the "coin" and hold it between her fingers on the obverse and reverse. I gasp and choose another one using a Kleenex to pick it out.

Yes, they don't know better but come on, if you are selling on Ebay you have to know better.

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SaorAlba

Hope the seller washes their hands after using the restroom....

Paradisefound

NumisOxide

Now imagine what you don't see.

Paradisefound

@coinJP said:
Now imagine what you don't see.

Colonialcoin

Many years ago, a seller on eBay was holding a coin properly by holding it by its rims. What grossed me out was that his fingernails were as long as my eyelashes and they were filthy as well. Needless to say I did not bid on the coin! 🤢😳

DCW

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm with @thefinn
It is circulated and can easily be rinsed in acetone to remove finger oils or grime. The finger doesn't bother me.

While you're entitled to your opinion, wouldn't you prefer one that you dont have to wash off the seller's DNA?

Coinstartled

Probably uses 24 old stamps for postage and licks each one.

OooooOOOOh the humanity.

Namvet69

What else did he touch with that finger? I need a Clorox wet wipe. Peace Roy

jmlanzaf

@DCW said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm with @thefinn
It is circulated and can easily be rinsed in acetone to remove finger oils or grime. The finger doesn't bother me.

While you're entitled to your opinion, wouldn't you prefer one that you dont have to wash off the seller's DNA?

No, because even without the photo, you have no idea who touched it. The assumption would have to be for all coins that someone touched it at some time. Whether it is a Mint employee at manufacture, a banker at distribution, or any of a dozen different owners over the years.

1630Boston

I forget if this was CL or the Bay ?

DCW

@jmlanzaf said:

@DCW said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm with @thefinn
It is circulated and can easily be rinsed in acetone to remove finger oils or grime. The finger doesn't bother me.

While you're entitled to your opinion, wouldn't you prefer one that you dont have to wash off the seller's DNA?

No, because even without the photo, you have no idea who touched it. The assumption would have to be for all coins that someone touched it at some time. Whether it is a Mint employee at manufacture, a banker at distribution, or any of a dozen different owners over the years.

Maybe you are not seeing the point? I think it is generally accepted that a token like this would have been touched by human hands many times in the last hundred years.
But, to lay it flat against one's fingertip and take a picture is sacrilege. It goes against all we are taught when we enter this hobby. Just plain ignorant

I can only imagine if somebody tried to sell their 2018 Palladium coin in this manner...

1940coupe

Here is a Proof coin on ebay touched all over

Rosco

The first thing I was ever taught as a young kid helping Grandma search bags and rolls
was coin etiquette, mandatory always, glad I listened.

Brown jersey gloves for handling all those dirty circulated coins, and a nice clean pair for handling
nice coinage.

And no talking, sneezing or spittle over a coin, when reviewing an item.

mustangmanbob

What REALLY upsets me is watching someone handle a coin with cotton gloves.

Cotton gloves are for funerals and parades.

Cotton is a dust magnet, trapping particles by the truckload, like pretty white sandpaper. Cotton cleaning rags are used why? Hold dirt.

Short fiber cotton typically used in less expensive cotton items, (cotton gloves, cheaper T shirts, etc.) often has bleach and fertilizer residue. One reason that a new cotton T shirt (or shorts) can be "scratchy" and it take a lot of laundry action to soften it up, round off the short ends, remove environmental contamination.

Do you see cotton gloves in the OR's? Traps for germs, crud, etc. Beauty Aids: Cotton pads to exfoliate the skin. Translation: Cotton sandpapers the skin to remove dead skin.

So, when you see cotton gloves, they are usings fertilizer germ soaked bleach sandpaper on their coins. This is why cotton gloves were banned in our workplace: rough, chemically contaminated, shed particles like crazy, and were never clean even right out of the package.

Rosco

@mustangmanbob said:
What REALLY upsets me is watching someone handle a coin with cotton gloves.

Cotton gloves are for funerals and parades.

Cotton is a dust magnet, trapping particles by the truckload, like pretty white sandpaper. Cotton cleaning rags are used why? Hold dirt.

Short fiber cotton typically used in less expensive cotton items, (cotton gloves, cheaper T shirts, etc.) often has bleach and fertilizer residue. One reason that a new cotton T shirt (or shorts) can be "scratchy" and it take a lot of laundry action to soften it up, round off the short ends, remove environmental contamination.

Do you see cotton gloves in the OR's? Traps for germs, crud, etc. Beauty Aids: Cotton pads to exfoliate the skin. Translation: Cotton sandpapers the skin to remove dead skin.

So, when you see cotton gloves, they are usings fertilizer germ soaked bleach sandpaper on their coins. This is why cotton gloves were banned in our workplace: rough, chemically contaminated, shed particles like crazy, and were never clean even right out of the package.

Point taken, and a very good point to make, Thank you !

jmlanzaf

@DCW said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DCW said:

@jmlanzaf said:
I'm with @thefinn
It is circulated and can easily be rinsed in acetone to remove finger oils or grime. The finger doesn't bother me.

While you're entitled to your opinion, wouldn't you prefer one that you dont have to wash off the seller's DNA?

No, because even without the photo, you have no idea who touched it. The assumption would have to be for all coins that someone touched it at some time. Whether it is a Mint employee at manufacture, a banker at distribution, or any of a dozen different owners over the years.

Maybe you are not seeing the point? I think it is generally accepted that a token like this would have been touched by human hands many times in the last hundred years.
But, to lay it flat against one's fingertip and take a picture is sacrilege. It goes against all we are taught when we enter this hobby. Just plain ignorant

I can only imagine if somebody tried to sell their 2018 Palladium coin in this manner...

I see the point. I just don't embrace the point. Sacrilege? Don't be dramatic.

I touch my coins all the time - the circ ones, that is - mostly by the rims, of course. But for some coins, I do touch the surfaces. I have NO PROBLEM with anyone fondling their coins. It does no harm to a circ coin to handle it, especially if it is already toned/oxidized. Untoned uncs or proof coins are a different story. It's a choice, it's not "ignorant" as it is completely harmless for many coins.

For that particular token, no harm would be done by touching every surface repeatedly. That is proven by the lack of any damage on that surface from a coin you yourself admit has been touched dozens of times, probably with dirty, grimy hands.

jmlanzaf

@Kudbegud said:
Handling a coin like that is like fingernails on a chalk board to me. Every year when I go and get the new Maui Trade Dollar the clerk invariably picks up the "coin" and hold it between her fingers on the obverse and
Yes, they don't know better but come on, if you are selling on Ebay you have to know better.

Of course, you Kleenex has fibers and really should not touch unc or proof surfaces. Latex glove would be better.

asheland

@PerryHall said:
He's probably not a coin collector so he doesn't know how to properly hold a coin. Did you ever see how William Devane holds an AGE in those Rosland Capitol commercials on TV?

What's in your safe?

PerryHall

When I read the title of this thread it sounded like someone was caught molesting his coin.

ctf_error_coins

Over the years I have gotten more than one raw coin actually taped to cardboard for shipping. WTF!!!!!!

OldEastside

@PerryHall said:
When I read the title of this thread it sounded like someone was caught molesting his coin.

It's time for the #numismaticmetoo Movement

Steve

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ricko

When I handle raw coins (proofs or value coins) I use the blue nitrile gloves... even then, when handling the proofs, I hold them by the edges so nothing touches the surfaces. As to the token, well, nothing short of outright damage is going to bother that one at this point. Cheers, RickO

jmlanzaf

@saltlydog4 said:

@thefinn said:
1st - not a coin, it's a token.
2nd - it is circulated and cannot be damaged.
3rd - people that collect tokens don't care - these things were made to circulate.

way off on 2 and 3. i honestly have no idea how any fair minded individual could have the opinion of #2. earned disagree click.

I think you are reading #2 too broadly. He means it cannot be damaged by touching it with your hands. That is demonstrably true.

coinpro76

@OldEastside said:

@PerryHall said:
When I read the title of this thread it sounded like someone was caught molesting his coin.

It's time for the #numismaticmetoo Movement

Steve

I will start the Canadian Campaign for this movement
hash tag MeToonie

mannie gray

I think this may be a touchy topic.

Kkathyl

My Mom did that and I was like Nooooooo. Stop. She learned

clarkbar04

You don't wanna know what natural adhesives he has used to ensure the coin does not slip off his finger.

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thefinn

@saltlydog4 said:

@thefinn said:
1st - not a coin, it's a token.
2nd - it is circulated and cannot be damaged.
3rd - people that collect tokens don't care - these things were made to circulate.

way off on 2 and 3. i honestly have no idea how any fair minded individual could have the opinion of #2. earned disagree click.

It can't be damaged by him laying it on his finger, unless he was washing up with nitric acid, and other acids without being too specific.

If the token is already circulated, letting it touch his fingers isn't going to add any wear.

I forget that we are living in a politically correct world now, so anything that doesn't agree with someone's point of view should be corrected by the thought police. Lighten up people! If you're not careful, you are going to melt.

BLUEJAYWAY

Could of been worse. Could of used the middle finger to display the coin.

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DCW

Guys,
Just supposed to be a funny little thread about someone mishandling a coin...
(Sorry, "token!")
Everybody have a good day.
And please hold your metal discs by the edges like your parents raised you.

kevinstang

I once brought a Dan Carr 1964 peace dollar to a coin show to show some of the dealers (all seemed to have never heard of them) and was shocked and surprised when one dealer took it out of the 2x2 coin flip and proceeded to finger and handle it all over- he had no clue. I made sure to tell others to not remove without asking and first thing I did when getting it home was give it an acetone bath.