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1913 type one buffalo nickel, abraded obverse die, a very rare buffalo nickel variety

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

1913 type one abraded obverse die, pictures follow first

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2018 4:10AM

    Someone in another thread I started asked me to stop talking about 1917 proof coinage, so here goes!! Here is a very rare buffalo nickel variety that does not show up often. It is the obverse die of the famous 3 and one half legged buffalo which is coupled with a normal unabraded reverse, die, probably the actual reverse die that itself was abraded producing the
    now famous and much sought after three and one half legged variety. This variety, with the normal reverse, is also rare
    but I do not think is as well known. I believe it should be referred to simply as an “abraded obverse die”.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am posting this to let those who are unaware of the variety know what it is. A good one to look for.

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BUFFNIXX .... Very interesting... A question... I am not challenging your description of the issue, however, in your first picture, it looks more like a lamination than abrasion....Probably a photographic anomaly....but sure looks like a 'missing piece' there..... Cheers, RickO

  • MarkMark Posts: 3,543 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. Too bad there are no die markers on the reverse die that would let you test your idea that this is the reverse die that eventually created the 3 1/2 leg buffalo.

    Mark


  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 4, 2018 4:26AM

    as well as the the three and one half legger of course!!
    (I have also heard others refer to the 3 and one half legged variety as the “2 & 1/2 feather/3 & 1/2 legged” variety which I think is an even better what to refer to it, giving mention to both of the abraded dies. )

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    @BUFFNIXX .... Very interesting... A question... I am not challenging your description of the issue, however, in your first picture, it looks more like a lamination than abrasion....Probably a photographic anomaly....but sure looks like a 'missing piece' there..... Cheers, RickO

    This is considered an abrasion in Koynequest’s book on abraded die buffalo nickels. In the smaller picture of the full obverse it is harder to tell but it is the same variety and from the same die as is the first photo -- the enlargement.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool. I've been looking for a 3.5 leg cherrypick for a while but it takes so long to go through the multitude of '13 type 1 listings. I usually end up just skimming thumbnails looking for any that appear to be 2.5 feather since as you mentioned, that obverse abraded die was used on the 3.5 leg. No luck so far.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes-it's currently listed in my book as a 2+ feather coin. A small and weak third feather remains.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting subject.

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  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 909 ✭✭✭✭

    Always wondered why Buffalo collectors like polished die coins so much. Many dealers carry multiples of 37-D 3 leg varieties yet they are considered scarce. I want full detail coins. Is that weird or what ?

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe it can be attributed to that '37-D 3 legged. A 3 legged bison is quite a novelty but it's not even scarce, just not generally available without paying a hefty premium.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fiftysevener said:
    Always wondered why Buffalo collectors like polished die coins so much. Many dealers carry multiples of 37-D 3 leg varieties yet they are considered scarce. I want full detail coins. Is that weird or what ?

    No, that's not weird. But being a Buffalo Nickel person, I learn to live without full detail coins.

    I instead search for "most detail" coins.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I actually like 'em, too, especially the 3 and 3 1/2 legged stuff.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    I believe it can be attributed to that '37-D 3 legged. A 3 legged bison is quite a novelty but it's not even scarce, just not generally available without paying a hefty premium.

    They are always around, like Ron said. When the Red Book included the picture and listed it, it gained numismatic immortality.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That might be the biggest factor of all, Pete. The same might be said of the 1916/16 but I think it gained most of it's notoriety when it was listed in the CDN in the fall of 1976, accompanied by a large, detailed article.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    That might be the biggest factor of all, Pete. The same might be said of the 1916/16 but I think it gained most of it's notoriety when it was listed in the CDN in the fall of 1976, accompanied by a large, detailed article.

    The late find of the 16/16 and the huge spread lit that one up like a firecracker.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon

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