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1972 Ike with crazy flaw

Ok you guys. I could really use some expertise on this 1 dollar Ike coin. Ive held onto it for a couple years now not inquiring about it till now. So the thing that i question is was it done in the mint or did somehow someone do this. But everytime i say someone did this i say but how. There are no marks on the face or the edges. The coin is lopsided in the midle. The edges are so clean but these marks on the back trip me out. The tail feathers for one. The anomaly on the tail feathers grove right in with the designs lines and above on the letterings i can still see clear as day. Please need opinions. Is this a one of a kind find or a very creavtive individual.












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  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What you see on the tail feathers is post-mint damage that caused the coin to bend.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Ive never seen one like this what about the lettering and so do you think this is a legitimate error coin?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How could it be an error? What process at the mint could create a cupped coin? That is the question you would need to answer.

    Why or how someone did this is anyone's guess. But I see no way the mint could have done it.

    I could create grinding marks on a coin and maybe bend it also....

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smithtim28 said:
    Ive never seen one like this what about the lettering and so do you think this is a legitimate error coin?

    That's also post-mint damage.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Thats what puzzles me there are no marks of anykind anywhere else. Im just wondering if someone was to try and bend this coin how would it get done without noticeable damage but ok and thanks for the insight.

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD

    GrandAm :)
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,542 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post-mint damage

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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are two places (at least) on the reverse with damage. Position it by the obverse rim on a piece of pipe and push (or hit) really hard with a crescent wrench. Voila!

    thefinn
  • SilverProofQuarter1883SilverProofQuarter1883 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears that a person took a hammer to the coin, I dosn’t apear to be a mint error, it appears to have bean damaged.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damage

    Collector, occasional seller

  • So looking at it close the damage started closer to rim and went towards ( pushed up) towards the eagles back side. No pipe theory though that would create damage in a circle and striking it from the top and work your way to edge of coin would make more sence but the damage strikes towards the bird from the bottom and pulls up inside. I dont know. Im gonna experiment with some objects

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smithtim28 said:
    Im gonna experiment with some objects

    I highly recommend this! When I was younger I did all sorts of crazy things to coins. It was a real learning experience that will help you understand errors and damage.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The big honking gouge is a clue of PMD. No wonder the coin is bowed. Ouch! Peace Roy

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is call:
    Pocket change

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Post Mint Damage....(PMD)... Force exerted on reverse (two spots) causing damage and forcing metal deformation....Cheers, RickO

  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have to agree with the post-mint damage. People get really creative when it comes to damaging coins.

    ----- kj
  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what would happen if I took a punch and one sharp blow to an IKE?

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    But the damage looks very much like a rare Egyptian urn.
    If you could find an Egyptian urn that small, it might be worth a lot. :)

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it looks like post mint damage to me as well.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing for me to add

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I Agree, Damaged.

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