Sounds like marriage love tokens. Looks like he married an older woman. I'll bet they had to elope for that. Maybe this was there special thing together. Pretty cool.
Super cool that these are still together, presumably long after the couple's parting.
I love stuff like this. Hope you are able to research the names and put a little biography together
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They're very cool, and the pouches and purse add a lot.
I'm always a little saddened that such items do not remain in the families, but rather go to collectors instead of being passed down to children and grandchildren.
On pawn stars, "Here is my great great grandfather's civil war hat and medal, how much can I get? I'd like to buy a fancy meal and go gambling!"
Very nice. It would be a fun set to check up on them to see what their lives were. With the information available online, you could probably find out where they were from, lived and died without needing to hire a genealogist.
Most 19th century American weddings were informal and bore no resemblance to the Victoria-Albert inspired white-dress fashion embraced by upper income women. Couples commonly exchanged multiple tokens of fidelity and mutual dependence. Exchange of engraved coins in silver or occasionally gold was common and each party kept their piece in some secure place for remembrance and pledge. Gold rings became more common as people gradually transitioned into more prosperous circumstances, but many couples did not have the means for gold. This made the exchange of engraved silver tokens especially significant to them. Some were used as money in dire emergencies; and descendants likely spent most of these, not realizing the importance to their ancestors. (These are also seen on Swedish and German coins.)
The matched pair with pouches is uncommon and should be kept together, along with whatever family information and photos that can be located.
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I like these also, have you done any research to find out if they were married or possibly brother and sister?
Cool coins
I have updated the info on my previous post. But I am still not sure if they were a married couple of brother or sister.
Two names on one gravestone, most likely married, but could be unmarried siblings. I remember someone telling me once that, in big eastern cities, it was common (maybe still is) to bury more than one family member in a grave to save money.
My money is on married and these represent really cool and unusual love tokens, unless research proves otherwise.
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That is an interesting an curious set. What does it say "Albert Edwin Lyle?"
Would those be considered love tokens? Don't see many dollar sized ones. Pretty cool.
Sounds like marriage love tokens. Looks like he married an older woman. I'll bet they had to elope for that. Maybe this was there special thing together. Pretty cool.
Very very nice
Super cool that these are still together, presumably long after the couple's parting.
I love stuff like this. Hope you are able to research the names and put a little biography together
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Worth sending to PCGS for the Secure View sniffer to determine if they are bull scrotum leather pouch toned?
At least Clara Belle got the CC dollar!
You are right, afford, very interesting post and quite a collector's item. Thanks for sharing.
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Very nice engraving and interesting period items. It would be great to be able to attach some history to the items. Cheers, RickO
It's "cool", I like it, wish I knew the history behind it !!!
pictures are astounding
How would pcgs grade these pieces?
Don't quote me on that.
Very cool. Thank you for sharing them. It would be great to know some history of the carvers.
Awesome period pieces for sure. It's great that the pieces still remain together.
Thanks for sharing them. Donato
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They're very cool, and the pouches and purse add a lot.
I'm always a little saddened that such items do not remain in the families, but rather go to collectors instead of being passed down to children and grandchildren.
On pawn stars, "Here is my great great grandfather's civil war hat and medal, how much can I get? I'd like to buy a fancy meal and go gambling!"
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Very nice. It would be a fun set to check up on them to see what their lives were. With the information available online, you could probably find out where they were from, lived and died without needing to hire a genealogist.
May they never part.
Most 19th century American weddings were informal and bore no resemblance to the Victoria-Albert inspired white-dress fashion embraced by upper income women. Couples commonly exchanged multiple tokens of fidelity and mutual dependence. Exchange of engraved coins in silver or occasionally gold was common and each party kept their piece in some secure place for remembrance and pledge. Gold rings became more common as people gradually transitioned into more prosperous circumstances, but many couples did not have the means for gold. This made the exchange of engraved silver tokens especially significant to them. Some were used as money in dire emergencies; and descendants likely spent most of these, not realizing the importance to their ancestors. (These are also seen on Swedish and German coins.)
The matched pair with pouches is uncommon and should be kept together, along with whatever family information and photos that can be located.
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I like these also, have you done any research to find out if they were married or possibly brother and sister?
Cool coins
Are you sure it wasn't Clara Belle on the Howdy
Doody show? (And just what was a male clown doing with that name?)
Two names on one gravestone, most likely married, but could be unmarried siblings. I remember someone telling me once that, in big eastern cities, it was common (maybe still is) to bury more than one family member in a grave to save money.
My money is on married and these represent really cool and unusual love tokens, unless research proves otherwise.