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1898 IHC date error

Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
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The number 1 on the obv is not the usual shape. No damage on or around the left side of 1 where the missing part of the number is. Anyone see this in an IHC date of any year. Thanks. Peace Roy

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it was hit by something during circulation.
    You can see photos of some of the known 1898 varieties here:
    https://indianvarieties.com/?s=1898&post_type=product

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69
    Here they are for easy viewing...

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, I saw the one date example with the missing 1 foot tip. So maybe die date edge break failure. Let's see who else shares. Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8, DCW

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks Pf, I am using a kindle fire so images are attachments only, no drag and drop. :-)

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8, DCW

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Yup, I saw the one date example with the missing 1 foot tip. So maybe die date edge break failure. Let's see who else shares. Peace Roy

    People can correct me if I am wrong, but an edge break on the number would make it larger, not smaller. Unless notched area is the true width and the rest is the expanded area...

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2018 8:34PM

    Your images are too pixelated to be 100% sure of anything so I say 99.9% damage. For your sake, I hope I'm proven wrong. :)

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got my usb microscope working. See new images for your examination. Let me know what you think. Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8, DCW

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears to be old damage that has 'aged' due to circulation.... JMO....I may be wrong, certainly, but that is my impression without it 'in hand'... Cheers, RickO

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2018 9:43AM

    I'm not sure what it is that happened with the "1", but here are the photos.

    Edited to add: Now that I took a closer look, it looks like PMD to me. I see some rounded gouges on the left edge of the number "1".

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's damage.

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You heard Fred: PMD = Pretty Major (Die) Defect!!! :D

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ,,,,but I didn't use the Double D's !

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for giving it your attention. I can continue the hunt. Peace Roy

    BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich, Bullsitter, jmski52, LukeMarshall, coinsarefun, MichaelDixon, NickPatton, ProfLiz, Twobitcollector,Jesbroken oih82w8, DCW

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