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Have you ever lost a star and got it back?

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 20, 2018 10:48AM in U.S. Coin Forum

No not the ones next to your username. :D An NGC STAR is the theme here (I’m not on the forums ATS and know plenty of people here also appreciate the star/have experience with NGC).

Has anyone ever had a coin upgrade but then lose the star (i.e. a 64 STAR received a 65)? If so, is there a way to get it back at the new grade? Or is the only hope to keep sending it in? Would showing a picture of the previous holder do anything?

I can see a coin upgrading and losing a PL (something that was graded under older standards that was considered PL at the time but is no longer PL by today’s standards...let’s say an old OGH/fattie that was 64 PL but today is a 65 that falls short of PL). However, losing the star seems less standard especially if the coin still looks the same/hasn’t continued toning (unless of course the original graders like the eye appeal better than the ones regrading).

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you crack it out, anything goes and they do not hand out stars like they used to. A regrade will always keep the star in my experience.

  • MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    If you crack it out, anything goes and they do not hand out stars like they used to. A regrade will always keep the star in my experience.

    Right on. It is a risk that you took and lost it appears. I don't see why they would give you a star back because it had one before, if you crack out a 65 and it goes to 64 your SOL, you can't just send them a photo of it in the old holder and get your grade back.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    If you crack it out, anything goes and they do not hand out stars like they used to. A regrade will always keep the star in my experience.

    NGC stars are special. Not something you want to lose.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:
    If you crack it out, anything goes and they do not hand out stars like they used to. A regrade will always keep the star in my experience.

    Right on. It is a risk that you took and lost it appears. I don't see why they would give you a star back because it had one before, if you crack out a 65 and it goes to 64 your SOL, you can't just send them a photo of it in the old holder and get your grade back.

    I didn’t take any risks. :)
    I found a holder that upgraded one point but lost a star (I didn’t send it in either time). Based on the holder generation, both grading events happened within the last 1-2 years. It just seemed weird to me that the grade went up but the star went away. I’ve seen it before with grades changing and other designations, but never a star (I have seen a star added just not subtracted).

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strange since a Star, one grade down, could in fact be worth more.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The whole premise for giving a coin the star designation is exceptional eye appeal (mostly based on a multi-colored coin). I would have to think that it "just barely got the star" the first go around.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    The whole premise for giving a coin the star designation is exceptional eye appeal (mostly based on a multi-colored coin). I would have to think that it "just barely got the star" the first go around.

    That's what has me confused with this example as the toning is still there. It's no monster, but it looks better than some of the coins I've seen squeeze into star holders over the years (especially for the given series; and it's not a Morgan).

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've lost my mind several times --- usually find it hiding behind the refrigerator. ;)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stars?? We don' need no steenkin' stars.... :D Stars, much like plus signs, matter to sellers, and, of course, status oriented collectors. I do not care .... I have passed on many coins with those designations - not a fan of tarnish.... The quality of the coin, crisp design, lack of hits and marks etc., are what matters to me....Cheers, RickO

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    The one I lost was a hazy 1940 proof Jefferson in 66 Star with no color. NCS conserved it and it came back 67. Still same deep mirrored cameo look minus haze and probably worth less though.

  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 922 ✭✭✭✭

    A Star on your coin may be your leverage when selling it. Real rewards can come if you make the Star coin yourself. They are often worth a 30 percent premium.

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