Also, be very careful when you list items from your phone and not your PC.
If you list for fixed price, it will default to "accept offers" at 50% of your asking price.
You have to highlight "offers" then select "no offers."
Pretty sneaky, eBay.
@mannie gray said:
Also, be very careful when you list items from your phone and not your PC.
If you list for fixed price, it will default to "accept offers" at 50% of your asking price.
You have to highlight "offers" then select "no offers."
Pretty sneaky, eBay.
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
I was taught it doesn't hurt to ask. The worst they can do is say no. I even try to negotiate in retail stores (furniture, jewelry, automobiles, gifts, propane). I've saved hundreds on some items and nobody invited me to ask. I sometimes get them to eat the tax as well. It pays to ask.
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There are so many absolutely ridiculous BIN asking prices out there that I can only assume that sellers are expecting offers. I do occasionally make unsolicited offers but they are fair and reasonable. If that twists you out of shape, well, your silly BIN didn’t excite me either.
@jmlanzaf said:
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
@jmlanzaf said:
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
I actually put this in one of my listings where the BIN was the bottom line: "The Buy it Now price is very fair, please don't send lower offers." . That worked, no useless offers and the item sold in a few days.
@jmlanzaf said:
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
I actually put this in one of my listings where the BIN was the bottom line: "The Buy it Now price is very fair, please don't send lower offers." . That worked, no useless offers and the item sold in a few days.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
I quite often contact these sellers with a friendly email saying something like "if the item doesn't sell, would you consider a BIN price of $xxx.xx"
It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
There are definitely some BIN prices that exceed reason. I just move on, even if interested. I have made a few offers.... two were accepted, the rest rejected. That was early on, now I do not bother. I always made fair offers, not stupid low ones. I think some of the one's I passed on are still listed. Reminds me of some dealers show inventory...Cheers, RickO
I just tried a 'make-offer'on ebay. It was for a car part. BIN at 35.00 or make offer.
I offered 30.00, no go.....32.00, no go.....33.00.....my final offer, you can only try it three times.....no go.....
What was the point of accepting offers ?
I made an offer to a seller yesterday even though it was not an option on the listing. I noticed when the ask seller a question screen comes up, make an offer is listed now. We split the difference between my offer and their listed price. It never hurts to ask.
@thebeav said:
I just tried a 'make-offer'on ebay. It was for a car part. BIN at 35.00 or make offer.
I offered 30.00, no go.....32.00, no go.....33.00.....my final offer, you can only try it three times.....no go.....
What was the point of accepting offers ?
You can always send a message and ask the seller what the best price is and make an offer that way.
Most sellers use a high BIN because buyers expect to negotiate. May seem silly but once I listed a Seated Dollar that had a Greysheet bid of $700 and CoinFacts previous sales showing closer to $900. I meant to list at $950 BIN best offer and accidentally hit the 6 and listed it for $650 . Before I realized it I get an offer for $500. I saw my error declined the offer and revised the price.
Buyer missed the opportunity at 10% back of Greysheet had they just hit BIN.
I ended up selling the coin later to another dealer for $900.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
I quite often contact these sellers with a friendly email saying something like "if the item doesn't sell, would you consider a BIN price of $xxx.xx"
It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
Try that at Walmart.
The BIN price is the price. If I want offers, I'll leave open the possibility of offers. eBay lets me accept offers if I want. That you think the BIN is too high is irrelevant. DON'T BUY IT. If no one buys it, maybe I'll entertain offers or lower the price.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
@bigjpst said:
Most sellers use a high BIN because buyers expect to negotiate. May seem silly but once I listed a Seated Dollar that had a Greysheet bid of $700 and CoinFacts previous sales showing closer to $900. I meant to list at $950 BIN best offer and accidentally hit the 6 and listed it for $650 . Before I realized it I get an offer for $500. I saw my error declined the offer and revised the price.
Buyer missed the opportunity at 10% back of Greysheet had they just hit BIN.
I ended up selling the coin later to another dealer for $900.
I don't know about "most", but many. But I also assume those people are ACCEPTING OFFERS.
@thebeav said:
I just tried a 'make-offer'on ebay. It was for a car part. BIN at 35.00 or make offer.
I offered 30.00, no go.....32.00, no go.....33.00.....my final offer, you can only try it three times.....no go.....
What was the point of accepting offers ?
You can always send a message and ask the seller what the best price is and make an offer that way.
Because maybe $33.50 is the lowest price they will accept? Or maybe make offer is the default. Or maybe they are currently selling at $35 each so well that they don't want to discount yet?
I recently had 2018-S coins for sale. I had BIN with offers because they were new and setting the price can be challenging. The dimes sold out immediately. I relisted at a higher price. sold out. Relisted at an even higher price. sold out. During that whole time, people could have made offers but I was rejecting offers of even 1 cent less than the BIN because they were flying off the shelf.
During that same time period, I had nickels listed. The nickels are the dog of the set. I was accepting all kinds of nickel offers just to try and sell a few. Eventually sold them as a roll just to get rid of them.
@jmlanzaf said:
offers and the item sold in a few days.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
I quite often contact these sellers with a friendly email saying something like "if the item doesn't sell, would you consider a BIN price of $xxx.xx"
It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
Try that at Walmart.
The BIN price is the price. If I want offers, I'll leave open the possibility of offers. eBay lets me accept offers if I want. That you think the BIN is too high is irrelevant. DON'T BUY IT. If no one buys it, maybe I'll entertain offers or lower the price.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
@gtstang said:
I made an offer to a seller yesterday even though it was not an option on the listing. I noticed when the ask seller a question screen comes up, make an offer is listed now. We split the difference between my offer and their listed price. It never hurts to ask.
It doesn't hurt to ask if the offer is reasonable. If anyone lowballs me on silver, I immediately block them. There are people that do nothing but troll for silver well back of melt so they can just quick flip it for money. I don't have time to deal with their constant offerings.
@Aotearoa said:
There are so many absolutely ridiculous BIN asking prices out there that I can only assume that sellers are expecting offers. I do occasionally make unsolicited offers but they are fair and reasonable. If that twists you out of shape, well, your silly BIN didn’t excite me either.
There are all kind of fake listings out there that seemed designed to set pricing expectations rather than actual listings.
@jmlanzaf said:
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
LOL. You know it. When one of my students was complaining about the election and who was or wasn't going to do something, I said, "at some point in your life, you're just going to want to be left alone."
Now, I love my legitimate customers- people who BUY things. I have some regulars that shoot me offers all the time and we discuss. On some items that don't have clear retail value (usually NOT coins), I usually include offers as an option. For items that have been in inventory for a long time, I usually include offers. But, some items don't and I get hundreds of daily emails as it is. People making legitimate low-ball offers are a waste of time.
Last week, I had one guy send me THREE separate offers on some Canadian silver dollars. The first two were a flat $100. I politely refused both. The second time I also indicated that I could "melt them here" if I wished. I got a third offer at $110 and he offered to pick it up because "I'm in Brooklyn". I should have ignored it, but I couldn't help but point out that Rochester NY is 5-1/2 hours from NY and that seemed a long drive to save $10.
This week, a guy in Spain offered me $20 for a silver set of Reverse Proof quarters. Now $20 is net $15 after shipping on $1.25 face 90% - I'm better off melting them as there is less bother and no shipping risk. I politely countered at $22 (because I WAS taking offers). He let that offer expire and then came back and offered me $20 again. He may get blocked...
but I was rejecting offers of even 1 cent less than the BIN because they were flying off the shelf.
Try that at Walmart.
Then do the world a favor and take 5 seconds to remove the offer from your listing instead of posting 10 times about it on this forum.
Last week, I bought an item off ebay, auction, 1st day, staring price was $50, asked his bottom dollar, and it was $35, so I bought it.
Yesterday, I received another item, listed at $150, auction, no bids yet, asked if it did not sell, would he accept an offer, because did not want everything in the listing. He said yes, no bid when it ended, he sent me an offer of $75 with free shipping, and I accepted. He sent me everything in the listing, as he was just tired of having it around.
And yes, I make offers at Lowe's, Home Depot and Walmart, and sometimes they are accepted.
Use all the features on ebay and life gets easier. Listing for $500 and will only sell at $450, then set a reject limit. Don't want to answer questions. then don't. Don't like someone, then block them.
Try some other, non coin forums. You would be surprised that people are happy buying and selling on the web, ebay, facebook, etc.
but I was rejecting offers of even 1 cent less than the BIN because they were flying off the shelf.
Try that at Walmart.
Then do the world a favor and take 5 seconds to remove the offer from your listing instead of posting 10 times about it on this forum.
Last week, I bought an item off ebay, auction, 1st day, staring price was $50, asked his bottom dollar, and it was $35, so I bought it.
Yesterday, I received another item, listed at $150, auction, no bids yet, asked if it did not sell, would he accept an offer, because did not want everything in the listing. He said yes, no bid when it ended, he sent me an offer of $75 with free shipping, and I accepted. He sent me everything in the listing, as he was just tired of having it around.
And yes, I make offers at Lowe's, Home Depot and Walmart, and sometimes they are accepted.
Use all the features on ebay and life gets easier. Listing for $500 and will only sell at $450, then set a reject limit. Don't want to answer questions. then don't. Don't like someone, then block them.
Try some other, non coin forums. You would be surprised that people are happy buying and selling on the web, ebay, facebook, etc.
You should read all of my posts. My objection is not to offers on coins that allow offers. My objection is to PEOPLE SENDING ME OFFERS ON ITEMS NOT ACCEPTING OFFERS.
@jmlanzaf said:
offers and the item sold in a few days.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
You could simply ignore the question?
You would think. But some people expect a response and get mad if they don't. Other people resend the request multiple times until they get a response.
On the flip side, why isn't it easier for you to simply respect my NOT accepting offers on that item?
@jmlanzaf said:
offers and the item sold in a few days.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
You could simply ignore the question?
You would think. But some people expect a response and get mad if they don't. Other people resend the request multiple times until they get a response.
On the flip side, why isn't it easier for you to simply respect my NOT accepting offers on that item?
Because many times if a listing has been sitting a long time, a reasonable seller WILL accept a lower offer, even if they don't have it set up to accept offers.
You would think. But some people expect a response and get mad if they don't. Other people resend the request multiple times until they get a response.
On the flip side, why isn't it easier for you to simply respect my NOT accepting offers on that item?
Because many times if a listing has been sitting a long time, a reasonable seller WILL accept a lower offer, even if they don't have it set up to accept offers.
Are you calling me an unreasonable seller?
Again, I accept offers all the time. I also usually auto-accept/auto-reject to streamline the process.
My beef is with the reasonable BIN that I don't (yet) want to accept offers on. The worst being bullion because of all the low-ball stackers sending me ridiculously low-ball offers.
To prove my reasonable-ness, I got an offer just last night from someone on a commem. I had it at $95 (paid $81 if you care). Greysheet bid is $80 but it was in an OGH so I (over)paid slightly more. He offered me $70. Now 10 back of bid isn't "generous", but it's a commem so it's "reasonable". I sent him a counteroffer...although, looking back, I might just be encouraging bad behavior.
Well this thread went a different way then I thought it would but that's ok. Let it all out.. I like making offers. I do the same at coin shows. I think its ok.. The only thing that bugs me as a seller is when I post something and accept a lowish offer and they return it!!!
@thebigeng said:
Well this thread went a different way then I thought it would but that's ok. Let it all out.. I like making offers. I do the same at coin shows. I think its ok.. The only thing that bugs me as a seller is when I post something and accept a lowish offer and they return it!!!
yup. Happened to me. And, of course, they always return it free so I'm out round trip shipping.
@oih82w8 said:
The seller fees are what I consider ridiculous, but at least they are lower than the big name auction houses.
I defy you to find lower total fees anywhere, especially if you have a store. Your total fees, including PayPal which is really a separate issue are less than 10%. You can't do that anywhere, especially on coins under $1000
Especially for small operations, it would be more expensive to host your own site with a payment gateway and you would have less than 1% of the eyeballs.
Say what you will about a lot of their rules and preferences, they are still the cheapest game in town for the little guy.
@jmlanzaf said:
offers and the item sold in a few days.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
I quite often contact these sellers with a friendly email saying something like "if the item doesn't sell, would you consider a BIN price of $xxx.xx"
It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
Try that at Walmart.
The BIN price is the price. If I want offers, I'll leave open the possibility of offers. eBay lets me accept offers if I want. That you think the BIN is too high is irrelevant. DON'T BUY IT. If no one buys it, maybe I'll entertain offers or lower the price.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
Your response makes me think you must be a joy to do business with.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
@oih82w8 said:
The seller fees are what I consider ridiculous, but at least they are lower than the big name auction houses.
I defy you to find lower total fees anywhere, especially if you have a store. Your total fees, including PayPal which is really a separate issue are less than 10%. You can't do that anywhere, especially on coins under $1000
Especially for small operations, it would be more expensive to host your own site with a payment gateway and you would have less than 1% of the eyeballs.
Say what you will about a lot of their rules and preferences, they are still the cheapest game in town for the little guy.
First thing you've said that I can totally agree with you.
"Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
@jmlanzaf said:
offers and the item sold in a few days.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
nt.
Your response makes me think you must be a joy to do business with.
Actually, I'm very easy to deal with - as my 65,000 eBay transactions and near perfect feedback would attest. The problem is I"m TOO EASY to deal with. I feel the need to politely respond to all would-be customers, even if they are sending me unsolicited offers.
Well, yes, and no.
Usually, that is correct, but if someone has "free shipping" and a comparably priced, maybe a few dollars less, has EXTRAVAGANT shipping (say, "$20-$50", just as an example, for something that doesn't cost near that to ship), and they have, in their terms, that shipping IS NOT refundable if returned, then that is something to be very wary of before bidding (ie...make sure the photos are great and detailed and the seller has an impeccable reputation, etc).
I don't like returning things on ebay, but I have done so if there were problems. I don't want to have to play games in order to get my money back if the seller was trying to play a game.
@Bochiman said:
Well, yes, and no.
Usually, that is correct, but if someone has "free shipping" and a comparably priced, maybe a few dollars less, has EXTRAVAGANT shipping (say, "$20-$50", just as an example, for something that doesn't cost near that to ship), and they have, in their terms, that shipping IS NOT refundable if returned, then that is something to be very wary of before bidding (ie...make sure the photos are great and detailed and the seller has an impeccable reputation, etc).
I don't like returning things on ebay, but I have done so if there were problems. I don't want to have to play games in order to get my money back if the seller was trying to play a game.
@thebigeng said:
They need a free shipping ONLY tab also...
Why? Just sort by price. That's what matters anyways.
Well, if there ARE problems, and that is why you are returning an item, they HAVE to refund the shipping. Ebay doesn't give them an option. I just sort by price, and don't even worry about the shipping price.
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But now they force you to take offers or they may charge a listing fee.
Is "First Born Child" an offer?
WHAT?
YA so if you want to just look at stuff to buy that accepts offers only you can do it!
May I opt to offer if though it is BIN only?
They need a free shipping ONLY tab also...
Why? Just sort by price. That's what matters anyways.
You need at least two: One for eBay and the "leftover" for the seller.
Also, be very careful when you list items from your phone and not your PC.
If you list for fixed price, it will default to "accept offers" at 50% of your asking price.
You have to highlight "offers" then select "no offers."
Pretty sneaky, eBay.
That's just insane.
I don't think it means you accept any offer. I'm guessing it means you negotiate. I've negotiated with lots of sellers on eBay with no problems.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
I'm getting tired of unsolicited offers from "buyers". If I want offers, I'll ask for them. If not, pay the BIN or move along. All you are doing is forcing me to spend time to politely refuse the offer I never asked to receive.
My "favorite" are the offers on auctions. If anyone ever offers to buy it for less than the starting bid if it doesn't sell, I think I'm going straight to BLOCK. I mean, seriously, why don't I just hang a "please don't bid, I'll drop the price" sign.
I was taught it doesn't hurt to ask. The worst they can do is say no. I even try to negotiate in retail stores (furniture, jewelry, automobiles, gifts, propane). I've saved hundreds on some items and nobody invited me to ask. I sometimes get them to eat the tax as well. It pays to ask.
"A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
Thanks for the heads-up !!!
There are so many absolutely ridiculous BIN asking prices out there that I can only assume that sellers are expecting offers. I do occasionally make unsolicited offers but they are fair and reasonable. If that twists you out of shape, well, your silly BIN didn’t excite me either.
Smitten with DBLCs.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
I actually put this in one of my listings where the BIN was the bottom line: "The Buy it Now price is very fair, please don't send lower offers." . That worked, no useless offers and the item sold in a few days.
If your BIN price is a fair one, then I agree with you.
But......most BIN listings (probably about 95%) are sky high or at the very least, close to full retail value and have absolutely no chance of selling (witness the many repetitive listings from these sellers month after month after month).
I quite often contact these sellers with a friendly email saying something like "if the item doesn't sell, would you consider a BIN price of $xxx.xx"
It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
There are definitely some BIN prices that exceed reason. I just move on, even if interested. I have made a few offers.... two were accepted, the rest rejected. That was early on, now I do not bother. I always made fair offers, not stupid low ones. I think some of the one's I passed on are still listed. Reminds me of some dealers show inventory...Cheers, RickO
I just tried a 'make-offer'on ebay. It was for a car part. BIN at 35.00 or make offer.
I offered 30.00, no go.....32.00, no go.....33.00.....my final offer, you can only try it three times.....no go.....
What was the point of accepting offers ?
I made an offer to a seller yesterday even though it was not an option on the listing. I noticed when the ask seller a question screen comes up, make an offer is listed now. We split the difference between my offer and their listed price. It never hurts to ask.
You can always send a message and ask the seller what the best price is and make an offer that way.
All very interesting
Most sellers use a high BIN because buyers expect to negotiate. May seem silly but once I listed a Seated Dollar that had a Greysheet bid of $700 and CoinFacts previous sales showing closer to $900. I meant to list at $950 BIN best offer and accidentally hit the 6 and listed it for $650 . Before I realized it I get an offer for $500. I saw my error declined the offer and revised the price.
Buyer missed the opportunity at 10% back of Greysheet had they just hit BIN.
I ended up selling the coin later to another dealer for $900.
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offers and the item sold in a few days.
Try that at Walmart.
The BIN price is the price. If I want offers, I'll leave open the possibility of offers. eBay lets me accept offers if I want. That you think the BIN is too high is irrelevant. DON'T BUY IT. If no one buys it, maybe I'll entertain offers or lower the price.
I have over 1000 items listed at all time. I do not have time to answer 1000 emails asking for a 5% discount.
I don't know about "most", but many. But I also assume those people are ACCEPTING OFFERS.
Because maybe $33.50 is the lowest price they will accept? Or maybe make offer is the default. Or maybe they are currently selling at $35 each so well that they don't want to discount yet?
I recently had 2018-S coins for sale. I had BIN with offers because they were new and setting the price can be challenging. The dimes sold out immediately. I relisted at a higher price. sold out. Relisted at an even higher price. sold out. During that whole time, people could have made offers but I was rejecting offers of even 1 cent less than the BIN because they were flying off the shelf.
During that same time period, I had nickels listed. The nickels are the dog of the set. I was accepting all kinds of nickel offers just to try and sell a few. Eventually sold them as a roll just to get rid of them.
You could simply ignore the question?
It doesn't hurt to ask if the offer is reasonable. If anyone lowballs me on silver, I immediately block them. There are people that do nothing but troll for silver well back of melt so they can just quick flip it for money. I don't have time to deal with their constant offerings.
There are all kind of fake listings out there that seemed designed to set pricing expectations rather than actual listings.
LOL. You know it. When one of my students was complaining about the election and who was or wasn't going to do something, I said, "at some point in your life, you're just going to want to be left alone."
Now, I love my legitimate customers- people who BUY things. I have some regulars that shoot me offers all the time and we discuss. On some items that don't have clear retail value (usually NOT coins), I usually include offers as an option. For items that have been in inventory for a long time, I usually include offers. But, some items don't and I get hundreds of daily emails as it is. People making legitimate low-ball offers are a waste of time.
Last week, I had one guy send me THREE separate offers on some Canadian silver dollars. The first two were a flat $100. I politely refused both. The second time I also indicated that I could "melt them here" if I wished. I got a third offer at $110 and he offered to pick it up because "I'm in Brooklyn". I should have ignored it, but I couldn't help but point out that Rochester NY is 5-1/2 hours from NY and that seemed a long drive to save $10.
This week, a guy in Spain offered me $20 for a silver set of Reverse Proof quarters. Now $20 is net $15 after shipping on $1.25 face 90% - I'm better off melting them as there is less bother and no shipping risk. I politely countered at $22 (because I WAS taking offers). He let that offer expire and then came back and offered me $20 again. He may get blocked...
Then do the world a favor and take 5 seconds to remove the offer from your listing instead of posting 10 times about it on this forum.
Last week, I bought an item off ebay, auction, 1st day, staring price was $50, asked his bottom dollar, and it was $35, so I bought it.
Yesterday, I received another item, listed at $150, auction, no bids yet, asked if it did not sell, would he accept an offer, because did not want everything in the listing. He said yes, no bid when it ended, he sent me an offer of $75 with free shipping, and I accepted. He sent me everything in the listing, as he was just tired of having it around.
And yes, I make offers at Lowe's, Home Depot and Walmart, and sometimes they are accepted.
Use all the features on ebay and life gets easier. Listing for $500 and will only sell at $450, then set a reject limit. Don't want to answer questions. then don't. Don't like someone, then block them.
Try some other, non coin forums. You would be surprised that people are happy buying and selling on the web, ebay, facebook, etc.
You should read all of my posts. My objection is not to offers on coins that allow offers. My objection is to PEOPLE SENDING ME OFFERS ON ITEMS NOT ACCEPTING OFFERS.
on't like someone, then block them.
Again, if you read all my postings, you would note that I am constantly being slammed as being too BIG and eBay DEFENDER.
CONGRATULATIONS! I hadn't realized you had been promoted to Board Censor! I hope the remunerations are good.
You would think. But some people expect a response and get mad if they don't. Other people resend the request multiple times until they get a response.
On the flip side, why isn't it easier for you to simply respect my NOT accepting offers on that item?
Because many times if a listing has been sitting a long time, a reasonable seller WILL accept a lower offer, even if they don't have it set up to accept offers.
Are you calling me an unreasonable seller?
Again, I accept offers all the time. I also usually auto-accept/auto-reject to streamline the process.
My beef is with the reasonable BIN that I don't (yet) want to accept offers on. The worst being bullion because of all the low-ball stackers sending me ridiculously low-ball offers.
To prove my reasonable-ness, I got an offer just last night from someone on a commem. I had it at $95 (paid $81 if you care). Greysheet bid is $80 but it was in an OGH so I (over)paid slightly more. He offered me $70. Now 10 back of bid isn't "generous", but it's a commem so it's "reasonable". I sent him a counteroffer...although, looking back, I might just be encouraging bad behavior.
Well this thread went a different way then I thought it would but that's ok. Let it all out.. I like making offers. I do the same at coin shows. I think its ok.. The only thing that bugs me as a seller is when I post something and accept a lowish offer and they return it!!!
The seller fees are what I consider ridiculous, but at least they are lower than the big name auction houses.
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yup. Happened to me. And, of course, they always return it free so I'm out round trip shipping.
I defy you to find lower total fees anywhere, especially if you have a store. Your total fees, including PayPal which is really a separate issue are less than 10%. You can't do that anywhere, especially on coins under $1000
Especially for small operations, it would be more expensive to host your own site with a payment gateway and you would have less than 1% of the eyeballs.
Say what you will about a lot of their rules and preferences, they are still the cheapest game in town for the little guy.
Ya the fees thing crack me up as ebay is the least expensive auction site with a world wide audience.
Ebay haters are a strange bunch.
Not likely, just look at the post count in this thread alone!
Your response makes me think you must be a joy to do business with.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
First thing you've said that I can totally agree with you.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
nt.
Actually, I'm very easy to deal with - as my 65,000 eBay transactions and near perfect feedback would attest. The problem is I"m TOO EASY to deal with. I feel the need to politely respond to all would-be customers, even if they are sending me unsolicited offers.
Well, yes, and no.
Usually, that is correct, but if someone has "free shipping" and a comparably priced, maybe a few dollars less, has EXTRAVAGANT shipping (say, "$20-$50", just as an example, for something that doesn't cost near that to ship), and they have, in their terms, that shipping IS NOT refundable if returned, then that is something to be very wary of before bidding (ie...make sure the photos are great and detailed and the seller has an impeccable reputation, etc).
I don't like returning things on ebay, but I have done so if there were problems. I don't want to have to play games in order to get my money back if the seller was trying to play a game.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Well, if there ARE problems, and that is why you are returning an item, they HAVE to refund the shipping. Ebay doesn't give them an option. I just sort by price, and don't even worry about the shipping price.
Raby does nothing unless it increases their profit.........NOTHING...........