Who has the highest TPGS graded Big Mac token?
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It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen. Most are in the 63-64 range. I'm guessing that the services that grade "moderns" w/o any magnification will get a majority of coins out in the 65-66 range.
So far a 1978-1988 MS-67 (strictly graded) is the best I've seen EXCEPT for one in the same decade that would have been a perfect coin except for one (what I call ejection scratches) small scrape. The reverses are all virtually 66 to 69. Many obverses are plagued with a scrape across the burger. Some tokens have Strike Thru errors - neat.
Anyway, it looks like a set of true, no question MS-70's will be extremely rare.
PS I'll post an image of the scrapes seen on these tokens tomorrow.
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Yay !!!
But will it sticker?
You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!
They grade worse crap.
But granted it's legal tender:
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I haven’t seen em in slabs but Ngc and icg are grading them. I have em raw but at the rate I’m selling them I doubt I will have any left to slab. I have yet to seen anything sell like these silly things.
I’m still waiting for them to crank out a perfect Big Mac!
AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Talk about doing things to lose credibility!!!!!!!!!
Makes me want to PUKE!
Did that, many times.
I take it you don't collect trade tokens or civil war tokens or depression scrip or....
I don't have ant CWT, but like them......that's not the same thing as Micky D toy money.
The workers will have to get paid $15 an hr in order to get perfect ones. Lol
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I'm keeping my specimen in Original Packaging - as issued!
I knew it would happen.
It's not the same because it's a 150 years later. Store cards of all types were pretty similar. Also, So-called dollars.
You cannot believe how the twisted side of me wants to get my set graded.
I also want to get a Boaty McBoatface coin and get that slabbed too...
Then sanity sets in for a couple of days. But the voices in my head keep saying, "Do it. Do it. Do it."
The TPG's are grading these?? I did not know that.... I am sure they will show up at yard sales soon....Cheers, RickO
id say real reasonable $$ wise as well
Joking aside, the few I have, some of them vary considerably as to strike and appearance. I could see a variation of grades on these all straight from the packaging. A few of them are exceptional in appearance, some are meh.
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Glad to hear it - one of mine has this and I was afraid it was a freakish exception. Not that I will slab it, but would it still grade with these scrapes?
In any case, if anyone gets stuck with a defective token they can just eat their loss.
That's from their press release. One problem: AFAIK, NGC has picked a description on their own: "Abstract Art"
So is PCGS grading these gems Yes or No???
Later, Paul.
You'll need to call them and ask. ICG does and I'll bet ANACS and PCGS are/will grade them. They are popular tokens.
Tulips were popular until I bought a truckload.
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Do they all qualify as First Strike eligible since they were all released in the first week of availability?
Seems the reasonable starting question would be who has one graded by a TPG followed by which service?
A quick google search revealed there will be 5 designs with a total of 6.2 million allegedly set to be struck... Or have already been struck.
The Franklin Mint sets issued for various countries are looking a little more attractive... Especially considering original mintage figures and the likely surviving population.
Good luck collecting either...
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The FM made some good looking and top quality coins, but the demand to support a high value is just not there. Time will tell what happens with the Big Mac tokens, but one thing in their favor is that they were made to be used.
There are Franklin mint items that already do bring reasonable money. And that trend may continue to surprise...
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At least tulips have a nice smell to them unlike the tokens which probably smell like grease, shame, and death.
P.S. If you are alluding to tulipmania, I think bitcoin is the 21st century equivalent.
I can live with the abstract label, art not so much. I think the value shake out shall not happen until merchandising profit figures are released by Ronald. Peace Roy
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If I get my Big Mac Sandwich slabbed it should last forever in the air-tight slab.
It’s amazes me people are interested in these tokens. Let alone want a slabbed one. But on the other hand, I like Lou Malnati’s pizza, so I would probably slab a pepperoni if I could.
I'm tempted. It'd either be here or ATS. I'm still hearing the voices in my head telling me to do it.
You're really comparing apples to oranges.
Osborne Coinage can do Franklin Mint level work or better, but that costs money.
The Mac Brasses are more the equivalent of a car wash or video arcade token. If you go to their website and price it out, these (probably) ended up costing less than 50 cents each. (As a matter of fact, Osborne does do all sorts of car wash/laundry/alternative coinage tokens.) And much can be forgiven for a freebie rather than something you paid for.
And while over 6 million were struck, they could also be redeemed. As I mentioned in another thread, Disney Dollars had a 90% return rate, which I though was very high. (However I've also been unable to find out how much was actually printed and sold, so that 10% could be quite a number.
) Since most who got a token probably don't have the same problems as many of us do, and got it because they actually wanted to eat a Big Mac, many may have redeemed it. Hey, it's essentially four bucks, after all.
I wonder if we'll ever find out how many were redeemed...
NGC census only lists 1 of each type certified (70s,80s,90s,00s,10s) and the grades are 65, 66, 67, 66, 66. The certificate does not exist for the coin posted above in an MS68 holder.
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where I live,there is only one macky ds and they only had 250 tokens...which went out the 1st day.....next macky d is 100 miles away......so I dont think many collections were completed in this area....I got one
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.
They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.
The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.
We will see if this set has legs.
An appropriate emoticon would have alerted us to whether or not you were joking, but for the sake of the exercise, it would in fact be highly illegal as these have McDonald's trademarks and are valid for free products.
I am wondering if someone in China will in fact crank out some fakes, not so much for collectors but for free Big Macs. Although the collectors market might be an added market, but then they would also need to fake the packaging.
Go right ahead. I suspected the Chinese
would get in on this and have been recording diagnostics on these pieces.
Think of the surprise when one of your "customers" gets his token returned as a "Chinese C/F!" LOL.
I hadn't thought about a fake Mac token, the risk the reward but I don't want the burger. Nevermind. Peace Roy
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MS-70 is shooting a bit low isn't it? Imagine a set in the new MS-70+ grade
I've asked at a few locations and indeed they are being redeemed for the burgers, I also wonder what percentage will end up not being redeemed...
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This is one of those scratches that seem to be very common on these tokens:
That would be amazing if 10 million tokens were redeemed for BigMacs before the end of the year.
If you want perfection from ANY McDonalds Employee you better hope they start a program to bring over Tibetan Buddhist Monks to seek enlightenment serving Burgers to Americans. The typical American McDonalds Employee is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Even expecting minimum standards are asking far too much out of most of them.
So, when a victim turns in one of these new tokens for a murder burger, it is no longer in the original cellophane. What do you think Ronald does with that token? Any evidence that Ronald is selling unpackaged tokens again? Peace Roy
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So you are counterfeiting these tokens?
Why would you do this?
I think it was a joke. I still have the number to their corporate office and @mustangmanbob anbob may be getting a contact if he does not reply to your questions.
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