Who has the highest TPGS graded Big Mac token?

Insider2

It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen. Most are in the 63-64 range. I'm guessing that the services that grade "moderns" w/o any magnification will get a majority of coins out in the 65-66 range.

So far a 1978-1988 MS-67 (strictly graded) is the best I've seen EXCEPT for one in the same decade that would have been a perfect coin except for one (what I call ejection scratches) small scrape. The reverses are all virtually 66 to 69. Many obverses are plagued with a scrape across the burger. Some tokens have Strike Thru errors - neat.

Anyway, it looks like a set of true, no question MS-70's will be extremely rare.

PS I'll post an image of the scrapes seen on these tokens tomorrow.

Timbuk3

Yay !!!

cameonut2011

But will it sticker?

DIMEMAN

You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!

ms70

@DIMEMAN said:
You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!

They grade worse crap.

But granted it's legal tender:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-1-Tuvalu-GHOSTBUSTERS-CREW-9999-Silver-Coin-PCGS-MS70-First-Day-of-Issue/173394633672?epid=11011506797&hash=item285f2023c8

ScarsdaleCoin

I haven’t seen em in slabs but Ngc and icg are grading them. I have em raw but at the rate I’m selling them I doubt I will have any left to slab. I have yet to seen anything sell like these silly things.

Colonialcoin

@Insider2 said:
It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen.

I’m still waiting for them to crank out a perfect Big Mac!

DIMEMAN

@ms70 said:

@DIMEMAN said:
You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!

They grade worse crap.

But granted it's legal tender:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-1-Tuvalu-GHOSTBUSTERS-CREW-9999-Silver-Coin-PCGS-MS70-First-Day-of-Issue/173394633672?epid=11011506797&hash=item285f2023c8

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Talk about doing things to lose credibility!!!!!!!!! Makes me want to PUKE!

dbldie55

@Colonialcoin said:

@Insider2 said:
It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen.

I’m still waiting for them to crank out a perfect Big Mac!

Did that, many times.

jmlanzaf

@DIMEMAN said:

@ms70 said:

@DIMEMAN said:
You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!

They grade worse crap.

But granted it's legal tender:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-1-Tuvalu-GHOSTBUSTERS-CREW-9999-Silver-Coin-PCGS-MS70-First-Day-of-Issue/173394633672?epid=11011506797&hash=item285f2023c8

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Talk about doing things to lose credibility!!!!!!!!! Makes me want to PUKE!

I take it you don't collect trade tokens or civil war tokens or depression scrip or....

DIMEMAN

@jmlanzaf said:

@DIMEMAN said:

@ms70 said:

@DIMEMAN said:
You are kidding....right. PCGS is not grading these are they!

They grade worse crap.

But granted it's legal tender:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-1-Tuvalu-GHOSTBUSTERS-CREW-9999-Silver-Coin-PCGS-MS70-First-Day-of-Issue/173394633672?epid=11011506797&hash=item285f2023c8

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Talk about doing things to lose credibility!!!!!!!!! Makes me want to PUKE!

I take it you don't collect trade tokens or civil war tokens or depression scrip or....

I don't have ant CWT, but like them......that's not the same thing as Micky D toy money.

bsshog40

@Colonialcoin said:

@Insider2 said:
It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen.

I’m still waiting for them to crank out a perfect Big Mac!

The workers will have to get paid $15 an hr in order to get perfect ones. Lol

jmski52

I'm keeping my specimen in Original Packaging - as issued!

jmlanzaf

@DIMEMAN said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@DIMEMAN said:

@ms70 said:

I don't have ant CWT, but like them......that's not the same thing as Micky D toy money.

It's not the same because it's a 150 years later. Store cards of all types were pretty similar. Also, So-called dollars.

BackroadJunkie

You cannot believe how the twisted side of me wants to get my set graded.

I also want to get a Boaty McBoatface coin and get that slabbed too...

Then sanity sets in for a couple of days. But the voices in my head keep saying, "Do it. Do it. Do it."

ricko

The TPG's are grading these?? I did not know that.... I am sure they will show up at yard sales soon....Cheers, RickO

johnny9434

@ricko said:
The TPG's are grading these?? I did not know that.... I am sure they will show up at yard sales soon....Cheers, RickO

id say real reasonable $$ wise as well

asheland

Joking aside, the few I have, some of them vary considerably as to strike and appearance. I could see a variation of grades on these all straight from the packaging. A few of them are exceptional in appearance, some are meh.

JBK

@Insider2 said:
Many obverses are plagued with a scrape across the burger.

Glad to hear it - one of mine has this and I was afraid it was a freakish exception. Not that I will slab it, but would it still grade with these scrapes?

In any case, if anyone gets stuck with a defective token they can just eat their loss.

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Insider2

That's from their press release. One problem: AFAIK, NGC has picked a description on their own: "Abstract Art"

Stooge

So is PCGS grading these gems Yes or No???

Insider2

You'll need to call them and ask. ICG does and I'll bet ANACS and PCGS are/will grade them. They are popular tokens.

derryb

@Insider2 said:
They are popular tokens.

Tulips were popular until I bought a truckload.

Batman23

Do they all qualify as First Strike eligible since they were all released in the first week of availability?

coinkat

Seems the reasonable starting question would be who has one graded by a TPG followed by which service?

A quick google search revealed there will be 5 designs with a total of 6.2 million allegedly set to be struck... Or have already been struck.

The Franklin Mint sets issued for various countries are looking a little more attractive... Especially considering original mintage figures and the likely surviving population.

Good luck collecting either...

JBK

@coinkat said:

A quick google search revealed there will be 5 designs with a total of 6.2 million allegedly set to be struck... Or have already been struck.

Ancient history - there ARE five designs, 6.2 million WERE struck, and they have all been distributed (as far as we know).

The Franklin Mint sets issued for various countries are looking a little more attractive... Especially considering original mintage figures and the likely surviving population.

Good luck collecting either...

The FM made some good looking and top quality coins, but the demand to support a high value is just not there. Time will tell what happens with the Big Mac tokens, but one thing in their favor is that they were made to be used.

coinkat

There are Franklin mint items that already do bring reasonable money. And that trend may continue to surprise...

cameonut2011

@derryb said:

@Insider2 said:
They are popular tokens.

Tulips were popular until I bought a truckload.

At least tulips have a nice smell to them unlike the tokens which probably smell like grease, shame, and death.

P.S. If you are alluding to tulipmania, I think bitcoin is the 21st century equivalent.

Namvet69

I can live with the abstract label, art not so much. I think the value shake out shall not happen until merchandising profit figures are released by Ronald. Peace Roy

GRANDAM

If I get my Big Mac Sandwich slabbed it should last forever in the air-tight slab.

air4mdc

It’s amazes me people are interested in these tokens. Let alone want a slabbed one. But on the other hand, I like Lou Malnati’s pizza, so I would probably slab a pepperoni if I could.

BackroadJunkie

@coinkat said:
Seems the reasonable starting question would be who has one graded by a TPG followed by which service?

I'm tempted. It'd either be here or ATS. I'm still hearing the voices in my head telling me to do it.

A quick google search revealed there will be 5 designs with a total of 6.2 million allegedly set to be struck... Or have already been struck.

The Franklin Mint sets issued for various countries are looking a little more attractive... Especially considering original mintage figures and the likely surviving population.

You're really comparing apples to oranges.

Osborne Coinage can do Franklin Mint level work or better, but that costs money.

The Mac Brasses are more the equivalent of a car wash or video arcade token. If you go to their website and price it out, these (probably) ended up costing less than 50 cents each. (As a matter of fact, Osborne does do all sorts of car wash/laundry/alternative coinage tokens.) And much can be forgiven for a freebie rather than something you paid for.

And while over 6 million were struck, they could also be redeemed. As I mentioned in another thread, Disney Dollars had a 90% return rate, which I though was very high. (However I've also been unable to find out how much was actually printed and sold, so that 10% could be quite a number. ) Since most who got a token probably don't have the same problems as many of us do, and got it because they actually wanted to eat a Big Mac, many may have redeemed it. Hey, it's essentially four bucks, after all.

I wonder if we'll ever find out how many were redeemed...

TwoKopeiki

NGC census only lists 1 of each type certified (70s,80s,90s,00s,10s) and the grades are 65, 66, 67, 66, 66. The certificate does not exist for the coin posted above in an MS68 holder.

chumley

where I live,there is only one macky ds and they only had 250 tokens...which went out the 1st day.....next macky d is 100 miles away......so I dont think many collections were completed in this area....I got one

mustangmanbob

I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

JBK

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

An appropriate emoticon would have alerted us to whether or not you were joking, but for the sake of the exercise, it would in fact be highly illegal as these have McDonald's trademarks and are valid for free products.

I am wondering if someone in China will in fact crank out some fakes, not so much for collectors but for free Big Macs. Although the collectors market might be an added market, but then they would also need to fake the packaging.

Insider2

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

Go right ahead. I suspected the Chinese would get in on this and have been recording diagnostics on these pieces.

Think of the surprise when one of your "customers" gets his token returned as a "Chinese C/F!" LOL.

Paradisefound

6 million mintage....a lot of money in the pot for any TPG worldwide and IMO the 1998-2008 is the better quality seeing them all in my hand.

@Insider2 said:
You'll need to call them and ask. ICG does and I'll bet ANACS and PCGS are/will grade them. They are popular tokens.

Namvet69

I hadn't thought about a fake Mac token, the risk the reward but I don't want the burger. Nevermind. Peace Roy

Zoins

@Insider2 said:
Who has the highest TPGS graded Big Mac token?

Not me

it looks like a set of true, no question MS-70's will be extremely rare.

MS-70 is shooting a bit low isn't it? Imagine a set in the new MS-70+ grade

asheland

I've asked at a few locations and indeed they are being redeemed for the burgers, I also wonder what percentage will end up not being redeemed...

DIMEMAN

@air4mdc said:
It’s amazes me people are interested in these tokens. Let alone want a slabbed one.

+1

Insider2

This is one of those scratches that seem to be very common on these tokens:

davewesen

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

That would be amazing if 10 million tokens were redeemed for BigMacs before the end of the year.

FullStrike

@bsshog40 said:

@Colonialcoin said:

@Insider2 said:
It is obvious that these tokens were just cranked out with no effort to produce a perfect specimen.

I’m still waiting for them to crank out a perfect Big Mac!

The workers will have to get paid $15 an hr in order to get perfect ones. Lol

If you want perfection from ANY McDonalds Employee you better hope they start a program to bring over Tibetan Buddhist Monks to seek enlightenment serving Burgers to Americans. The typical American McDonalds Employee is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Even expecting minimum standards are asking far too much out of most of them.

Namvet69

So, when a victim turns in one of these new tokens for a murder burger, it is no longer in the original cellophane. What do you think Ronald does with that token? Any evidence that Ronald is selling unpackaged tokens again? Peace Roy

Jcld

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

So you are counterfeiting these tokens?

jwitten

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

Why would you do this?

Insider2

@jwitten said:

@mustangmanbob said:
I have contacted one of the Chinese companies I deal with, and will be getting 5K of each token shipped to me around 22 September. I expect these to be MS68+ as each one will have a paper insert between each coin.

They will not have COPY on them as they are not covered under the Hobby Protection Act.

The cost was very reasonable, with most of the cost being creating the dies. Now that the sunk cost of the dies is over, making them in 2500 pieces runs is very reasonable. (2500 being the normal lowest set up, based on prepping the dies, setting the press, and packaging). Anything over 2500 pieces is very cheap, on an incremental cost basis.

We will see if this set has legs.

Why would you do this?

I think it was a joke. I still have the number to their corporate office and @mustangmanbob anbob may be getting a contact if he does not reply to your questions.

derryb

Guess the Grade