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Nice error coin I bought today.

MinerscoinMinerscoin Posts: 87 ✭✭
edited August 28, 2018 11:55AM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice. Almost looks frosty. Interesting how much of the understrike is left.

  • MinerscoinMinerscoin Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited August 11, 2018 4:28PM

    I flipped out when the guy pulled it out. All he had was state quarters and this rare quarter. Said he bought a small bag from the mint and found this. He was happy when he left the shop. This coin besides having the double strike is pristine.

  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    Very nice pickup,

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2018 12:34PM

    second thoughts

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    <3

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real nice!

  • What’s the wholesale market price on this coin.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!

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  • Thanks

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent. Looks like you doubled your pleasure.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, "awesome" !!! :)

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  • MinerscoinMinerscoin Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited August 28, 2018 11:55AM

    !

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m viewing this on my iPhone – so I’m limited in viewing details of it, but there’s something that doesn’t look right to me about it Dash any chance it’ll be at the AMA this week? I’ll have to see if I can view it on someone’s laptop during the show but so far I’m here in Philly and only have my iPhone to view the images – it doesn’t smell right visually to me

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  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm with Fred on this one. It's anomalous because of the sharpness of the second strike while allowing so much of the first strike's detail to remain. The rim and the detail there is also a bit strange. It could easily be real, but deserves a closer look I think.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I’m viewing this on my iPhone – so I’m limited in viewing details of it, but there’s something that doesn’t look right to me about it Dash any chance it’ll be at the AMA this week? I’ll have to see if I can view it on someone’s laptop during the show but so far I’m here in Philly and only have my iPhone to view the images – it doesn’t smell right visually to me

    Is your thinking that the possibility that this coin was struck from false (counterfeit) dies?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    I’m viewing this on my iPhone – so I’m limited in viewing details of it, but there’s something that doesn’t look right to me about it Dash any chance it’ll be at the AMA this week? I’ll have to see if I can view it on someone’s laptop during the show but so far I’m here in Philly and only have my iPhone to view the images – it doesn’t smell right visually to me

    Fred, I don't see anything obviously wrong with it on the big screen, other than possibly that it looks quite flat (no bending during the second strike).

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  • I edited the pics to show more details. It’s hard for me to take pics with my iPhone.

  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭

    Fred, I'm thinkin the first strike was complete, the second strike (the off center one) the struck coin was tipped in the chamber and struck again. Roughly 50% of the first strike around the radius on top of Washington's head was completely struck out, yet leaving some of the original devices that were struck up originally remain in the lower half. The bent coin was flattened out during the complete stroke of the dies...that's my story and I'm stickin to it.

    Me, I thinks it's genuine, 100% cool error.

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  • MinerscoinMinerscoin Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited August 12, 2018 1:12PM

    I edited the pics that were not really good to show what’s struck on the rim at twelve o’clock on the reverse and six o’clock on the obverse.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes – the second off-center strike doesn’t look right, neither does it’s grandma – or how the lettering from the original genuine strike shows through – I appreciate him taking a good look at it on his computer screen which I can’t do – but it still doesn’t smell right visually to me – at least on a small telephone screen

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don’t know how the word “grandma” got in there I’m doing this by voice – I think I meant to say grandma well just said grandma again but I said rim – Rim– Sorry for any confusion

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,124 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2018 2:03PM

    The digits of the second "1999" seem broader, flatter, and more frosted than the first 1999.
    The second "JM" (engraver's initials) lack the definition that the first JM has.

    Based on that, it appears that the second strike was from different dies than the first strike.

  • I disagree

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    almost looks like it may have had a slight 3rd hit. The last A in Pennsylvania on the very top of the reverse looks to be in the wrong spot and on the obverse through the LL looks like it doesn't follow the diameter of the second hit. Interesting coin, I like it!

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  • That’s what I was was thinking Mike.

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    I will reserve my opinion but I recall running across a webpage selling ALOT of counterfeit coins and or "errors" very familiar to this. Not assuming yours is not genuine.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess the only way to be sure is for a microscopic examination of some area of the field that shows up on both strikes to see if the same microscopic die flaws repeat.

    Because of the alignment of the two strikes I think we can safely rule out a struck coin bouncing into this coining chamber from a different coining chamber.

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  • If it’s a fake it’s a good one.

  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    I will reserve my opinion but I recall running across a webpage selling ALOT of counterfeit coins and or "errors" very familiar to this. Not assuming yours is not genuine.

    Do you remember the website name? Thanks.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would be cool to have Fred, Dan or the captain (sorry don't know your real name :) ) to have a look at this coin in person.

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  • Yes it would Mike. And I’m willin’

  • MinerscoinMinerscoin Posts: 87 ✭✭
    edited October 4, 2018 7:08AM

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  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    @1Mike1 said:

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    I will reserve my opinion but I recall running across a webpage selling ALOT of counterfeit coins and or "errors" very familiar to this. Not assuming yours is not genuine.

    Do you remember the website name? Thanks.

    I do not but when I get home I can search around a bit and let you know.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not an error expert...not even close. So I will await the input of the experts above.... I will say there are anomalies I do not understand though - which is appropriate for a non-expert. ;) Cheers, RickO

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thats a wicked cool pick up, i like :)

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