From the sheet it looks like there are 10 double prints and Mantle is a triple print. So the other 49 cards appear only once each.
On the other hand, since the players in the left edge which appear once are likely tough to find centered, maybe that creates the perception that they are shorter printed? The right edge is all double prints, so they would not seem as tough.
We would need to see the 2nd sheet.
My guess is that the left column only appears once on each sheet for a total of 2x on the whole sheet, while the others show up 3x or possibly 4x. I collected the set in PSA 8. There are plenty of cards showing up only 1x on the sheet shown that are very plentiful, like Marichal, Spahn, Oliva, Pizarro.
The bottom row is the toughest from a condition perspective.
This forum is a ridiculous wealth of information. I'm daily impressed.
When I was a kid, in the early '70's, '64 Giants were sold at Dodger Stadium in packages of 25 for a buck. We bought tons of them. No card was any tougher than the rest, and there certainly weren't any short prints. Koufax, Causey, Cisco, all of the supposed "short prints" were found in the same numbers as any others, except for Mantle. Everyone had 6 Mantles. I don't know how those came to be listed as short prints, but they weren't, and the sheet above proves it.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
@Griffins said:
When I was a kid, in the early '70's, '64 Giants were sold at Dodger Stadium in packages of 25 for a buck. We bought tons of them. No card was any tougher than the rest, and there certainly weren't any short prints. Koufax, Causey, Cisco, all of the supposed "short prints" were found in the same numbers as any others, except for Mantle. Everyone had 6 Mantles. I don't know how those came to be listed as short prints, but they weren't, and the sheet above proves it.
You may, indeed, be right. My instincts tell me, though, that for a product, which, at that time, was overproduced, one wouldn't necessarily notice much of a gap on a 2::3 production ratio. The slight exception being the Mays and Koufax which would have significantly higher demand than the other five. The set was relatively easy to put together in an 8, but the population numbers and the competition on the bottom row plus Mays can be a challenge. The Boyer, in particular, seemed to be the most difficult.
This was a junk $2.50 to $5 set throughout the 70's into the 80's (Wholesale Cards, Fritsch, Martucci, etc.).
I think it is an awesome set. Large card with a crisp kodachrome portrait and simple design on the front. A second photo, some game action, on the back, with a story about some accomplishment of the player.
I love those types of cards. The 83 Donruss Action All-Stars are a guilty pleasure. I have long considered starting a 71 Greatest Moments set. From a learning about baseball perspective, 72 In-Action, excluding the advertisements and puzzle backs, were awesome ("So You Think You Know Baseball", historical leaders) and the Fleer World Series sets were my favorites.
Did you used to sell '64 Giants Mantle's on ebay about 10-12 years ago? I used to buy them one at a time from a seller who had a similar story about purchasing them at Dodger Stadium.
@Griffins said:
When I was a kid, in the early '70's, '64 Giants were sold at Dodger Stadium in packages of 25 for a buck. We bought tons of them. No card was any tougher than the rest, and there certainly weren't any short prints. Koufax, Causey, Cisco, all of the supposed "short prints" were found in the same numbers as any others, except for Mantle. Everyone had 6 Mantles. I don't know how those came to be listed as short prints, but they weren't, and the sheet above proves it.
Nope, put my set together, sold it, then bought another set raw. And then bought the uncut sheet.
Every one of my friends used to have piles of '64 Giants- they were the oldest cards we could get cheap, and they had a lot of players that weren't in the current sets but we'd still heard of. Dodger Stadium seemed to have an endless supply.
We had so many of these at one point my friends and I stacked them into bricks, wrapped them in massive rubber bands (the ones off balsa airplanes), and used them for slalom cones for skateboarding races.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
@Darin said:
Those 75 sheets are crazy cool!
The only sheet I own is an 82 topps and I only bought it because it had a considerable
amount of K.C. players on it.
If the Brett-Yount rookie sheet is ever for sale let me know.
I have acquired a number of uncut sheets since my last post in this thread. Let's see if I can't get some pics uploaded and put a bow on this.
I'm assuming you mean this 82 Topps sheet. Just about any Royal player of consequence is on this one.
Besides the 2 1981 sheets shown in this thread earlier, I also picked up this one.
After acquiring half of the set in uncut form, there appeared a listing for all 6 sheets at once, on a BIN, for roughly what I paid for my 3. I considered going ahead and buying the set, and then selling off the 3 duplicate sheets, but during my hesitation on whether I really wanted to fool with that, someone quickly bought the set out from under me. Except for Ryan and Raines, I believe I have the most desirable cards from the set on the sheets that I have already.
@tulsaboy said:
Thanks for the info! I will have to keep my eyes out for them then. I only started recently looking, and just observed that the 1986s seem a little harder to find. Not necessarily more expensive, apparently, but maybe not as readily available. Something fun to hunt for!
kevin
From my experience personally, and from what I can determine anecdotally, the 1986 Topps baseball sheets are by far the toughest of the 80s to come by, and you'll see many of the 70s sheets multiple times on eBay, and yet rarely see a lone 1986 sheet. I was lucky to stumble across a complete set of 6 sheets and snatched them up without hesitation. Here's the first one.
This one is neck and neck with the Clemens/Ryan sheet as my favorite, but likely gets the edge because the 3 stars are consecutively positioned and oriented properly.
I recall a large percentage of my raw Clemens that I own are OC, with the cut practically taking off part of the lettering in Red Sox. Conversely, Seaver was always cut with his name extremely low and lots of black on top. Now I see the correlation for that.
Lastly, this was a throw-in on a trip to my LCS. Knowing my penchant for Starting Lineups, as well as uncut sheets, they had held this back for me after acquiring it as part of a large collection. I don't have the proper sized toploader or a frame for it yet, but will be displaying it prominently once I do. It may not have much value, but I was certainly appreciative to be given such a cool item.
count- Yes, that first 82 sheet you posted is the same one I have.
Brett, Wilson, White, Otis, McRae, Dennis Leonard- six of my favorite Royals right there,
and throw in a few more plus several major stars, Schmidt, Fisk, Seaver, etc., that makes
for a great looking uncut sheet!
Thanks for posting.
@tulsaboy said:
Thanks for the info! I will have to keep my eyes out for them then. I only started recently looking, and just observed that the 1986s seem a little harder to find. Not necessarily more expensive, apparently, but maybe not as readily available. Something fun to hunt for!
kevin
From my experience personally, and from what I can determine anecdotally, the 1986 Topps baseball sheets are by far the toughest of the 80s to come by, and you'll see many of the 70s sheets multiple times on eBay, and yet rarely see a lone 1986 sheet. I was lucky to stumble across a complete set of 6 sheets and snatched them up without hesitation. Here's the first one.
Sooooo.....I went to the National this week and came home with a huge box of 86 Topps uncut sheets. I haven't counted them yet but they are supposedly 5 complete sets in uncut form. I have no idea if that is true. I guess I will have to find out. But I now have about 30 or so uncut sheets of 86 Topps. And one of the 85 Clemens sheets for good measure.
Kevin
@tulsaboy said:
Thanks for the info! I will have to keep my eyes out for them then. I only started recently looking, and just observed that the 1986s seem a little harder to find. Not necessarily more expensive, apparently, but maybe not as readily available. Something fun to hunt for!
kevin
From my experience personally, and from what I can determine anecdotally, the 1986 Topps baseball sheets are by far the toughest of the 80s to come by, and you'll see many of the 70s sheets multiple times on eBay, and yet rarely see a lone 1986 sheet. I was lucky to stumble across a complete set of 6 sheets and snatched them up without hesitation. Here's the first one.
Sooooo.....I went to the National this week and came home with a huge box of 86 Topps uncut sheets. I haven't counted them yet but they are supposedly 5 complete sets in uncut form. I have no idea if that is true. I guess I will have to find out. But I now have about 30 or so uncut sheets of 86 Topps. And one of the 85 Clemens sheets for good measure.
Kevin
5 sets! Wow! That's awesome! Sounds like you suffer from the same affliction as me - I sometimes have difficulty doing things in moderation when it comes to cards. Haha!
Did you converse with anyone about the (perceived) relative scarcity of uncut sheets of 86s compared to other years? Did that seem to be other's experience, too, or not so much?
Count, great thread. Love looking at the early 80's/ 70's sheets.
Collecting PSA 9's from 1970-1977. Raw 9's from 72-77. Raw 10's from '78-'83. Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks. Prefer to buy in bulk.
@tulsaboy said:
Thanks for the info! I will have to keep my eyes out for them then. I only started recently looking, and just observed that the 1986s seem a little harder to find. Not necessarily more expensive, apparently, but maybe not as readily available. Something fun to hunt for!
kevin
From my experience personally, and from what I can determine anecdotally, the 1986 Topps baseball sheets are by far the toughest of the 80s to come by, and you'll see many of the 70s sheets multiple times on eBay, and yet rarely see a lone 1986 sheet. I was lucky to stumble across a complete set of 6 sheets and snatched them up without hesitation. Here's the first one.
Sooooo.....I went to the National this week and came home with a huge box of 86 Topps uncut sheets. I haven't counted them yet but they are supposedly 5 complete sets in uncut form. I have no idea if that is true. I guess I will have to find out. But I now have about 30 or so uncut sheets of 86 Topps. And one of the 85 Clemens sheets for good measure.
Kevin
5 sets! Wow! That's awesome! Sounds like you suffer from the same affliction as me - I sometimes have difficulty doing things in moderation when it comes to cards. Haha!
Did you converse with anyone about the (perceived) relative scarcity of uncut sheets of 86s compared to other years? Did that seem to be other's experience, too, or not so much?
I'm not sure the guy understood what he had. I think he was just excited that someone wanted them. He also had a huge box of 85s too. I got a Clemens sheet for 10 bucks thrown into the deal. I did talk to several people there when they saw what I had and none of them had ever seen uncut 86s. I was super excited to get them. Completely unexpected but when I saw them I didn't hesitate. I am now faced with the challenge of displaying them. I love your approach. It is probably what I will do with mine. The other nice thing about them is they are flat and have never been rolled. They lay perfectly flat. Most sheets I have handled have been rolled at some point. These are so smooth and flat and should display well.
Kevin
Kevin,
That is an incredible find! Congratulations. Like others have said they look incredible when displayed properly. Even tho I’m building a room for my collection, I don’t have the wall space for full sheets.
The fact that they are flat and in that seemingly original factory box makes this a really unique find.
If you don’t mind, could you share the name of the dealer?
John
Conundrum - Loving my unopened baseball card collection....but really like ripping too
@NJ80sBBC said:
Kevin,
That is an incredible find! Congratulations. Like others have said they look incredible when displayed properly. Even tho I’m building a room for my collection, I don’t have the wall space for full sheets.
The fact that they are flat and in that seemingly original factory box makes this a really unique find.
If you don’t mind, could you share the name of the dealer?
John
John, I have been kicking myself for not gathering that information myself. I will try to grab a floor map of the National, because I know generally where he was, and see if I can figure that out. Do you know if there is a master list of the names of the dealers occupying different booths that I could compare to the floor layout? If so, I could probably figure out who the dealer was.
I went back and counted the sheets, fyi. My box/case has 53 sheets in it. As many as 10 copies of one sheet, as few as 8 of another. Which means I have 8 complete sets of sheets plus a few extras. Some of the sheets have a handwritten notation on the side that appears to be a print date for the sheets. If I remember correctly, I think they were summer of 1986.
kevin
I went back and counted the sheets, fyi. My box/case has 53 sheets in it. As many as 10 copies of one sheet, as few as 8 of another. Which means I have 8 complete sets of sheets plus a few extras. Some of the sheets have a handwritten notation on the side that appears to be a print date for the sheets. If I remember correctly, I think they were summer of 1986.
kevin
Wow! 53 sheets is even more impressive! I don't know if demand will ever really pick up for the 86s (It's been 33 years, already, after all...), but my goodness, anybody that's been actively hunting for those would know that it's tough to find just one sheet, let alone a whole set (times 8!).
Responding to a previous mention from you about how I display the sheets, it's been a year plus since I first detailed my method, and I've been really pleased with the giant toploaders with the 3M Command strips. My LCS gets me toploaders pretty much at cost of $10 each. I think they can run anywhere from $15-$20 most places. A custom frame, while giving it a classier look, would also add exponential expense. The 3M strips are about $7 for a box of 12 pairs, and they are as easy to remove from the wall as advertised (I was cautiously skeptical, but it was no problem and didn't leave any mark). I started out using a pair of strips near each top corner and another pair about 1/3rd of the way down each edge. I didn't want to come home to a house with toploaders all over the floor, so erred on the side of caution. But lately, when hanging new additions, I've just used a pair on each corner, forgoing the pair on each edge.
This is a great thread. One of my favorite sheets that I own is a 1987 Fleer full set, from Fleer in the mailing box. I don't recall seeing another. Brings back good memories of the hype around Will Clark, Kevin Mitchell, Bo Jackson, Kevin Seitzer and others. Bonds was up and coming, I recall these cards having more hype.
Somewhere I have 1989 Upper Deck, and I believe 1982 Topps Traded.
@esquiresports said:
This is a great thread. One of my favorite sheets that I own is a 1987 Fleer full set, from Fleer in the mailing box. I don't recall seeing another. Brings back good memories of the hype around Will Clark, Kevin Mitchell, Bo Jackson, Kevin Seitzer and others. Bonds was up and coming, I recall these cards having more hype.
Somewhere I have 1989 Upper Deck, and I believe 1982 Topps Traded.
I have only just occasionally come across some 1987 Fleer sheets, and I believe a full set maybe only once. I don't recall seeing a mailing box included. Was it decorative at all, or just a plain nondescript cardboard box?
I've also considered an 82 Traded sheet, although my hesitation there is more to do with the price and condition of the ones I've seen than not being able to find a vacant spot to display a single sheet.
Thanks for the clarification on how you displayed your sheets. I thought that's what I remembered, so at the National I looked at the Ultra Pro dealer table for those holders. They wanted $17 each, which I thought was high. If they were 10 each I might have sprung for 6 to frame an entire set of the 86s, but at that point I would have paid more for the 6 holders than I would have for the whole box of sheets! I understand that displaying them is fundamentally a money-losing proposition for the 86s, but I think I will eventually give in. I have also considered building a frame around one of those holders (I'm fairly handy with woodworking) such that I could basically use the holder as my "glass" for the frame. I have enough scraps that I bet I could make a set of those frames, paint them black, and hang them for less than $100. If so, that's probably a worthwhile project for me. Do you know if the holders protect against UV light? I fear hanging some of those sheets and then watching them fade to nothingness.
kevin
Wow! 53 sheets is even more impressive! I don't know if demand will ever really pick up for the 86s (It's been 33 years, already, after all...), but my goodness, anybody that's been actively hunting for those would know that it's tough to find just one sheet, let alone a whole set (times 8!).
Responding to a previous mention from you about how I display the sheets, it's been a year plus since I first detailed my method, and I've been really pleased with the giant toploaders with the 3M Command strips. My LCS gets me toploaders pretty much at cost of $10 each. I think they can run anywhere from $15-$20 most places. A custom frame, while giving it a classier look, would also add exponential expense. The 3M strips are about $7 for a box of 12 pairs, and they are as easy to remove from the wall as advertised (I was cautiously skeptical, but it was no problem and didn't leave any mark). I started out using a pair of strips near each top corner and another pair about 1/3rd of the way down each edge. I didn't want to come home to a house with toploaders all over the floor, so erred on the side of caution. But lately, when hanging new additions, I've just used a pair on each corner, forgoing the pair on each edge.
@tulsaboy I do not believe the toploaders, Ultra Pro or otherwise, offer UV protection. There may be some out there, but I'd bet they'd then be way more costly than the ones you came across at the National. I keep my most valuable sheets, i.e. the 1975s, hanging in my card room that has essentially zero light coming in from outside, while a majority of my other sheets are hanging in another part of the house that also gets minimal outside light, of which none is a direct hit from the sun. I haven't taken any time to do comparisons or examinations to see if there has been much if any fading, though.
Due to the fact that 86s seem to be your thing, and you got them so cheaply with more in reserves, if it was me, I'd hang those babies where they could be viewed, and not even think twice about it. Enjoy your cards, man!
I have a few 81 Topps and Donruss sheets. Have held them for some reason since 82. Can’t decide what to do with them! It’s probably time to toss them. !!
@Darin said:
Those 75 sheets are crazy cool!
The only sheet I own is an 82 topps and I only bought it because it had a considerable
amount of K.C. players on it.
If the Brett-Yount rookie sheet is ever for sale let me know.
I have acquired a number of uncut sheets since my last post in this thread. Let's see if I can't get some pics uploaded and put a bow on this.
I'm assuming you mean this 82 Topps sheet. Just about any Royal player of consequence is on this one.
How does your 81 Topps Valenzuela look ? If it could be a 10 you’re rich !
@balco758 said:
I have a few 81 Topps and Donruss sheets. Have held them for some reason since 82. Can’t decide what to do with them! It’s probably time to toss them. !!
Still have them ?
The Fernando is money if a possible 10.
@countdouglas said:
Besides the 2 1981 sheets shown in this thread earlier, I also picked up this one.
After acquiring half of the set in uncut form, there appeared a listing for all 6 sheets at once, on a BIN, for roughly what I paid for my 3. I considered going ahead and buying the set, and then selling off the 3 duplicate sheets, but during my hesitation on whether I really wanted to fool with that, someone quickly bought the set out from under me. Except for Ryan and Raines, I believe I have the most desirable cards from the set on the sheets that I have already.
Comments
This forum is a ridiculous wealth of information. I'm daily impressed.
Andy
When I was a kid, in the early '70's, '64 Giants were sold at Dodger Stadium in packages of 25 for a buck. We bought tons of them. No card was any tougher than the rest, and there certainly weren't any short prints. Koufax, Causey, Cisco, all of the supposed "short prints" were found in the same numbers as any others, except for Mantle. Everyone had 6 Mantles. I don't know how those came to be listed as short prints, but they weren't, and the sheet above proves it.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
You may, indeed, be right. My instincts tell me, though, that for a product, which, at that time, was overproduced, one wouldn't necessarily notice much of a gap on a 2::3 production ratio. The slight exception being the Mays and Koufax which would have significantly higher demand than the other five. The set was relatively easy to put together in an 8, but the population numbers and the competition on the bottom row plus Mays can be a challenge. The Boyer, in particular, seemed to be the most difficult.
This was a junk $2.50 to $5 set throughout the 70's into the 80's (Wholesale Cards, Fritsch, Martucci, etc.).
I think it is an awesome set. Large card with a crisp kodachrome portrait and simple design on the front. A second photo, some game action, on the back, with a story about some accomplishment of the player.
I love those types of cards. The 83 Donruss Action All-Stars are a guilty pleasure. I have long considered starting a 71 Greatest Moments set. From a learning about baseball perspective, 72 In-Action, excluding the advertisements and puzzle backs, were awesome ("So You Think You Know Baseball", historical leaders) and the Fleer World Series sets were my favorites.
Did you used to sell '64 Giants Mantle's on ebay about 10-12 years ago? I used to buy them one at a time from a seller who had a similar story about purchasing them at Dodger Stadium.
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Nope, put my set together, sold it, then bought another set raw. And then bought the uncut sheet.
Every one of my friends used to have piles of '64 Giants- they were the oldest cards we could get cheap, and they had a lot of players that weren't in the current sets but we'd still heard of. Dodger Stadium seemed to have an endless supply.
We had so many of these at one point my friends and I stacked them into bricks, wrapped them in massive rubber bands (the ones off balsa airplanes), and used them for slalom cones for skateboarding races.
Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's
I have acquired a number of uncut sheets since my last post in this thread. Let's see if I can't get some pics uploaded and put a bow on this.
I'm assuming you mean this 82 Topps sheet. Just about any Royal player of consequence is on this one.
Also a few Royals on this one.
Besides the 2 1981 sheets shown in this thread earlier, I also picked up this one.
After acquiring half of the set in uncut form, there appeared a listing for all 6 sheets at once, on a BIN, for roughly what I paid for my 3. I considered going ahead and buying the set, and then selling off the 3 duplicate sheets, but during my hesitation on whether I really wanted to fool with that, someone quickly bought the set out from under me. Except for Ryan and Raines, I believe I have the most desirable cards from the set on the sheets that I have already.
I did not limit my purchases to just baseball, as I also acquired all 3 sheets that make up the 1988 Topps football set.
From my experience personally, and from what I can determine anecdotally, the 1986 Topps baseball sheets are by far the toughest of the 80s to come by, and you'll see many of the 70s sheets multiple times on eBay, and yet rarely see a lone 1986 sheet. I was lucky to stumble across a complete set of 6 sheets and snatched them up without hesitation. Here's the first one.
This one is neck and neck with the Clemens/Ryan sheet as my favorite, but likely gets the edge because the 3 stars are consecutively positioned and oriented properly.
Here's the Clemens/Ryan.
I recall a large percentage of my raw Clemens that I own are OC, with the cut practically taking off part of the lettering in Red Sox. Conversely, Seaver was always cut with his name extremely low and lots of black on top. Now I see the correlation for that.
Here's the final 3 sheets in the 1986 set.
Lastly, this was a throw-in on a trip to my LCS. Knowing my penchant for Starting Lineups, as well as uncut sheets, they had held this back for me after acquiring it as part of a large collection. I don't have the proper sized toploader or a frame for it yet, but will be displaying it prominently once I do. It may not have much value, but I was certainly appreciative to be given such a cool item.
Have the partial 76 and 78 sheets and this whole 79 one. So cool
count- Yes, that first 82 sheet you posted is the same one I have.
Brett, Wilson, White, Otis, McRae, Dennis Leonard- six of my favorite Royals right there,
and throw in a few more plus several major stars, Schmidt, Fisk, Seaver, etc., that makes
for a great looking uncut sheet!
Thanks for posting.
Sooooo.....I went to the National this week and came home with a huge box of 86 Topps uncut sheets. I haven't counted them yet but they are supposedly 5 complete sets in uncut form. I have no idea if that is true. I guess I will have to find out. But I now have about 30 or so uncut sheets of 86 Topps. And one of the 85 Clemens sheets for good measure.
Kevin
5 sets! Wow! That's awesome! Sounds like you suffer from the same affliction as me - I sometimes have difficulty doing things in moderation when it comes to cards. Haha!
Did you converse with anyone about the (perceived) relative scarcity of uncut sheets of 86s compared to other years? Did that seem to be other's experience, too, or not so much?
Count, great thread. Love looking at the early 80's/ 70's sheets.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
uncut sheets are so amazing to look at. I have always steered clear of them because they are so difficult to maintain and store.
Really cool to see the OP having such a good time collecting them!
I'm not sure the guy understood what he had. I think he was just excited that someone wanted them. He also had a huge box of 85s too. I got a Clemens sheet for 10 bucks thrown into the deal. I did talk to several people there when they saw what I had and none of them had ever seen uncut 86s. I was super excited to get them. Completely unexpected but when I saw them I didn't hesitate. I am now faced with the challenge of displaying them. I love your approach. It is probably what I will do with mine. The other nice thing about them is they are flat and have never been rolled. They lay perfectly flat. Most sheets I have handled have been rolled at some point. These are so smooth and flat and should display well.
Kevin
Kevin,
That is an incredible find! Congratulations. Like others have said they look incredible when displayed properly. Even tho I’m building a room for my collection, I don’t have the wall space for full sheets.
The fact that they are flat and in that seemingly original factory box makes this a really unique find.
If you don’t mind, could you share the name of the dealer?
John
John, I have been kicking myself for not gathering that information myself. I will try to grab a floor map of the National, because I know generally where he was, and see if I can figure that out. Do you know if there is a master list of the names of the dealers occupying different booths that I could compare to the floor layout? If so, I could probably figure out who the dealer was.
I went back and counted the sheets, fyi. My box/case has 53 sheets in it. As many as 10 copies of one sheet, as few as 8 of another. Which means I have 8 complete sets of sheets plus a few extras. Some of the sheets have a handwritten notation on the side that appears to be a print date for the sheets. If I remember correctly, I think they were summer of 1986.
kevin
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Wow! 53 sheets is even more impressive! I don't know if demand will ever really pick up for the 86s (It's been 33 years, already, after all...), but my goodness, anybody that's been actively hunting for those would know that it's tough to find just one sheet, let alone a whole set (times 8!).
Responding to a previous mention from you about how I display the sheets, it's been a year plus since I first detailed my method, and I've been really pleased with the giant toploaders with the 3M Command strips. My LCS gets me toploaders pretty much at cost of $10 each. I think they can run anywhere from $15-$20 most places. A custom frame, while giving it a classier look, would also add exponential expense. The 3M strips are about $7 for a box of 12 pairs, and they are as easy to remove from the wall as advertised (I was cautiously skeptical, but it was no problem and didn't leave any mark). I started out using a pair of strips near each top corner and another pair about 1/3rd of the way down each edge. I didn't want to come home to a house with toploaders all over the floor, so erred on the side of caution. But lately, when hanging new additions, I've just used a pair on each corner, forgoing the pair on each edge.
This is a great thread. One of my favorite sheets that I own is a 1987 Fleer full set, from Fleer in the mailing box. I don't recall seeing another. Brings back good memories of the hype around Will Clark, Kevin Mitchell, Bo Jackson, Kevin Seitzer and others. Bonds was up and coming, I recall these cards having more hype.
Somewhere I have 1989 Upper Deck, and I believe 1982 Topps Traded.
I have only just occasionally come across some 1987 Fleer sheets, and I believe a full set maybe only once. I don't recall seeing a mailing box included. Was it decorative at all, or just a plain nondescript cardboard box?
I've also considered an 82 Traded sheet, although my hesitation there is more to do with the price and condition of the ones I've seen than not being able to find a vacant spot to display a single sheet.
Thanks for the clarification on how you displayed your sheets. I thought that's what I remembered, so at the National I looked at the Ultra Pro dealer table for those holders. They wanted $17 each, which I thought was high. If they were 10 each I might have sprung for 6 to frame an entire set of the 86s, but at that point I would have paid more for the 6 holders than I would have for the whole box of sheets! I understand that displaying them is fundamentally a money-losing proposition for the 86s, but I think I will eventually give in. I have also considered building a frame around one of those holders (I'm fairly handy with woodworking) such that I could basically use the holder as my "glass" for the frame. I have enough scraps that I bet I could make a set of those frames, paint them black, and hang them for less than $100. If so, that's probably a worthwhile project for me. Do you know if the holders protect against UV light? I fear hanging some of those sheets and then watching them fade to nothingness.
kevin
@tulsaboy I do not believe the toploaders, Ultra Pro or otherwise, offer UV protection. There may be some out there, but I'd bet they'd then be way more costly than the ones you came across at the National. I keep my most valuable sheets, i.e. the 1975s, hanging in my card room that has essentially zero light coming in from outside, while a majority of my other sheets are hanging in another part of the house that also gets minimal outside light, of which none is a direct hit from the sun. I haven't taken any time to do comparisons or examinations to see if there has been much if any fading, though.
Due to the fact that 86s seem to be your thing, and you got them so cheaply with more in reserves, if it was me, I'd hang those babies where they could be viewed, and not even think twice about it. Enjoy your cards, man!
I have a few 81 Topps and Donruss sheets. Have held them for some reason since 82. Can’t decide what to do with them! It’s probably time to toss them. !!
How does your 81 Topps Valenzuela look ? If it could be a 10 you’re rich !
Still have them ?
The Fernando is money if a possible 10.
Can you give us a close up of FV.