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A PO-01 worthy Morgan? 1879 P?

Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭
edited July 14, 2018 4:11PM in U.S. Coin Forum

So I finally managed to find what I think will definitely grade a PO-01. I know there are some who don't get the lowball collecting but I have just been intent on finding one just for fun. I think this might do it! The last lowball I sent in turned out to be an 1895 S FR-02.
Now I need some help, I think this is a P mint mark but some other insights would be appreciated!


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    HallcoHallco Posts: 3,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know PCGS has the minimum grade on submissions...I guess there isn't a "Maximum" though! :D

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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 14, 2018 5:40PM

    Maybe.
    Looks like a 1.5 to me which would be a 02.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not know for sure if that is a PO-1... looks to me as if it may be a tad too much detail, however, I may be wrong... Let us know if you send it in. Cheers, RickO

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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭

    Maybe another year in the pocket and 3 or 4 more wash cycles . . .

    Need the following OBW rolls to complete my 46-64 Roosevelt roll set:
    1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
    Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
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    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭

    I sent this coin in earlier and I really hope it will be a PO01!

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mannie gray said:
    Maybe.
    Looks like a 1.5 to me which would be a 02.

    ^^^ This :D

    Thing is, if the mm, or date, can't be positively confirmed, it gets a body bag. PO01 is a very tricky/hard grade to get. Which is, in part, why some of us desire them so much. Now, if only we can get a community (registry set, cough, registry set) dedicated to ms60 "unc lowballs" on the same interest level as PO01's enjoy. I wonder which grade is harder to get, overall..

    The more you VAM..
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    AlexinPAAlexinPA Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That certainly is worn. I also like to collect worn 'lowball' Morgan dollars. I wonder where they've been, what stores they passed through or what card games the saw. Hope you get your grade.

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it, good luck !!! :)

    Timbuk3
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And the result is?

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    ajaanajaan Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:

    @mannie gray said:
    Maybe.
    Looks like a 1.5 to me which would be a 02.

    ^^^ This :D

    Thing is, if the mm, or date, can't be positively confirmed, it gets a body bag. PO01 is a very tricky/hard grade to get. Which is, in part, why some of us desire them so much. Now, if only we can get a community (registry set, cough, registry set) dedicated to ms60 "unc lowballs" on the same interest level as PO01's enjoy. I wonder which grade is harder to get, overall..

    I didn't think of this. That is correct, if PCGS can't determine the mint mark it should get a BB. I hope it POs for you.


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    Don
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    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2018 11:39AM

    If there was a mint mark I do believe you would be able to see remnants of something. I took a loupe to it and there is nothing which leads me to believe it's a P, but oh well it's all good fun!

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's clearly a 79-P, but no PO1. PO1 not only can't have rims on either side, the date is also typically about half way gone.

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you got the grade right, poor poor poor!
    or basal state if you wish?

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hallco said:
    I know PCGS has the minimum grade on submissions...I guess there isn't a "Maximum" though! :D

    I know this is tongue-in-cheek, but PCGS doesn't allow a minimum grade of 70 on modern bulk. The lowball version of this would be not allowing a maximum grade of 1 on lowball bulk.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think you did it ..... the “1”

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to imagine all that wear and nothing to "detail" it.

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Hard to imagine all that wear and nothing to "detail" it.

    Can you elaborate please? Wear, in and of itself, is no reason to details a coin nomatter how "worn" the coin is, up until the point of not being able to determine date/mint that is.

    The more you VAM..
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris said:

    @Smudge said:
    Hard to imagine all that wear and nothing to "detail" it.

    Can you elaborate please? Wear, in and of itself, is no reason to details a coin nomatter how "worn" the coin is, up until the point of not being able to determine date/mint that is.

    No rim damage, major scratches, things like that.

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    HallcoHallco Posts: 3,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @Smudge said:
    Hard to imagine all that wear and nothing to "detail" it.

    Can you elaborate please? Wear, in and of itself, is no reason to details a coin nomatter how "worn" the coin is, up until the point of not being able to determine date/mint that is.

    No rim damage, major scratches, things like that.

    I was concerned about whatever is going on near the star @4 o'clock might be damage. Happy for the op. Pretty neat that this graded and is truly in a slab/class of it's own! :)

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    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭

    Oh guys it didn't grade yet, could still get details for all I know. I just sent it out a couple days ago, will be months until we know what happens unfortunately.

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    HallcoHallco Posts: 3,627 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Spartcom5 said:
    Oh guys it didn't grade yet, could still get details for all I know. I just sent it out a couple days ago, will be months until we know what happens unfortunately.

    Oh, sorry. For some reason I was under the impression it had already been graded. I think I'm dumb! :D

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    Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 392 ✭✭✭

    Pop was bumped from 5 to 6. Could it be my coin? Hopefully I will find out soon!

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's an 01, but I would call it cleaned due to too-white surfaces.

    When in doubt, don't.
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    BJandTundraBJandTundra Posts: 383 ✭✭✭✭

    What are the guidelines for submitting in this low ball category? If I can find it again, I have a Morgan that makes the coin in the OP's picture look like an MS-65.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    good luck

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    What became of this?

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    REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they can determine its a genuine, uncleaned Philly then it looks like a 1 to me. I think the marks would be excused at this grade.

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    SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭

    I think it would be a fair 2. It would be tough to see it land in a poor 1. We know its not AG 3

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    tyler267tyler267 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭✭

    @Spartcom5 said:
    Pop was bumped from 5 to 6. Could it be my coin? Hopefully I will find out soon!

    I hope it is your coin, good luck

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    News?

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 6:14AM

    2 obv 1 rev - if that coin could only talk. :D

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    CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2019 6:20AM

    @Smudge said:

    @CascadeChris said:

    @Smudge said:
    Hard to imagine all that wear and nothing to "detail" it.

    Can you elaborate please? Wear, in and of itself, is no reason to details a coin nomatter how "worn" the coin is, up until the point of not being able to determine date/mint that is.

    No rim damage, major scratches, things like that.

    All of the dings, dents and scratches have been worn away.... :)

    Just like a cleaned AU coin... If you wear it down to a 45, you probably can't tell it was once cleaned anymore.

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    dave700xdave700x Posts: 59 ✭✭✭

    The problem with P-01 is that I never see a lowball Morgan with the wear pattern as pictured in the photograde example. There always seems to be more detail near the rims and less central device details.

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    santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lowballs ain’t my deal, but I still find them very interesting.

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    It depends on the grader's opinion on what they think a PO01 coin should look like. There are over %80 graded Morgan dollar PO01s and no two look alike. Unlike a perfect 70 coin with no flaws some PO01 coins do have issues but graded anyways.

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still got a full LIBERTY.

    thefinn
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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I doesn’t rate
    its basal state
    i would give it a poor-01

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
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    HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Old thread

    But what was the result @Spartcom5?

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm no expert but it looks like a 1 to me

    Tom

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    @Spartcom5 said:
    Unfortunately it came back a FR-02 even though I seriously thought it should've hit a PO-01

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