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Bills RB Lesean McCoy might have just ruined the rest of his NFL career

erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

There are reports he viciously beat his girlfriend that includes a picture of her face beaten to a pulp. If this is true his NFL career is done. I don't want to post the picture but it can be found with a google image search for "Lesean Mccoy beats girlfriend"
If he did this he deserves to go to prison imo.

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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 8:30AM

    The Girlfriend's friend that made this public also said he beat his dog to death then attempted to beat his kid for peeing in the bed but was stopped by his girlfriend.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    just life in the nfl

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pasted:

    McCoy quickly denied the allegations.

    “For the record, the totally baseless and offensive claims made against me today on social media are completely false,” he said in a statement. “Further more, I have not had any direct contact with any of the people involved in months.”


    Sounds similar to something OJ said.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He can deny it all he wants but once the image of her face reaches every news outlet he's screwed.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That pic is brutal.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    being on an nfl roster is like living in a bizarro world. as long as you're productive, you can do things like pound on a female and ways to circumvent will be dropped in your lap. not until your services are no longer needed do you bear the brunt of the ramifications.

    my money is on shady's wrist hurting for about 5 minutes

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    looks like she has been bludgeoned to death in that photo and i guarantee you he wont spend a day in jail

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now there's a report that McCoy sent people to her house to pistolwhip & rob her. Hopefully someone got the cops involved.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If he had any involvement in this whether he actually did this or sent someone to do this then he is 100% done and going to jail for a very long time, that pic reminded me of what MMA WarMachine did to Christy Mack, that kid is serving a basic life sentence. It’s called Mayhem and it’s bad. I tend to wait until all the facts come out before I pass judgement but that pic is proof that something horrific happened to that woman, whoever is responsible deserves real punishment.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this is true they should throw the book at him. I have no use for people like that

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    being on an nfl roster is like living in a bizarro world. as long as you're productive, you can do things like pound on a female and ways to circumvent will be dropped in your lap. not until your services are no longer needed do you bear the brunt of the ramifications.

    my money is on shady's wrist hurting for about 5 minutes

    Sorry but that is FALSE, look at Ray Rice. He punched his girl, she begged the NFL to give him another try and married him, all for nothing as he never sniffed an NFL opportunity after that.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The NFL has a no tolerance edict with domestic abuse issues like these. I expect him to be suspended indefinitely if these allegations are true and he had any involvement with this.



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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 10:22AM

    @perkdog said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    being on an nfl roster is like living in a bizarro world. as long as you're productive, you can do things like pound on a female and ways to circumvent will be dropped in your lap. not until your services are no longer needed do you bear the brunt of the ramifications.

    my money is on shady's wrist hurting for about 5 minutes

    Sorry but that is FALSE, look at Ray Rice. He punched his girl, she begged the NFL to give him another try and married him, all for nothing as he never sniffed an NFL opportunity after that.

    i was referring to his freedom, perk. where is Ray Rice now after he dropped his girlfriend like a sack of potatoes for the entire world to see? is he inhaling fresh air or is he someone's bitch?

    what about Dez? dude assaulted his own mother, for crying out loud. forget about him spending a nanosecond behind bars, does anyone even remember him doing that? of course not, because it's so commonplace and players skate with regularity.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @perkdog said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    being on an nfl roster is like living in a bizarro world. as long as you're productive, you can do things like pound on a female and ways to circumvent will be dropped in your lap. not until your services are no longer needed do you bear the brunt of the ramifications.

    my money is on shady's wrist hurting for about 5 minutes

    Sorry but that is FALSE, look at Ray Rice. He punched his girl, she begged the NFL to give him another try and married him, all for nothing as he never sniffed an NFL opportunity after that.

    i was referring to his freedom, perk. where is Ray Rice now after he dropped his girlfriend like a sack of potatoes for the entire world to see? is he inhaling fresh air or is he someone's bitch?

    what about Dez? dude assaulted his own mother. forget about him spending a nanosecond behind bars, does anyone even remember him doing that? of course not, because it's so commonplace and players skate with regularity.

    I think in some incidents its worse for the players when there are video or pics made public showing the damage done, that's not the case with most A&B incidents with pro athletes. Even if this just cost him his job and money in a civil suit that would still be a somewhat stiff punishment. That being said,the report about the pistolwhip while getting robbed takes this story down a weird path.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Galaxy I agree to a point, like Erik just mentioned the picture is a burden of proof and will weigh in Big if it’s tied to Shady. Let’s see what the facts are going forward I guess

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    so he beat the girlfriend the kid and a dog? You watch this will all lead right back to Vladimir Putin :D

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    Even if this just cost him his job and money in a civil suit that would still be a somewhat stiff punishment.

    this is the type of mentality i'm arguing against. go look at that picture again -- that girl looks like death warmed over. and stripping him of his job and money would be somewhat stiff? i'll tell you what would be stiff........LeSean getting one hour per day to see sunlight.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Galaxy I agree to a point, like Erik just mentioned the picture is a burden of proof and will weigh in Big if it’s tied to Shady. Let’s see what the facts are going forward I guess

    fair enough. but the chances of Shady playing absolutely no role are roughly the same as Dimeman suddenly becoming an impartial sports fan

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    Even if this just cost him his job and money in a civil suit that would still be a somewhat stiff punishment.

    this is the type of mentality i'm arguing against. go look at that picture again -- that girl looks like death warmed over. and stripping him of his job and money would be somewhat stiff? i'll tell you what would be stiff........LeSean getting one hour per day to see sunlight.

    If he did beat her,and thats a BIG IF,he deserves to go to jail whether you think the picture looks worse than it probably is. Then add in the dog & kid involvement and this could be much worse than what's been made public,that's why i said i hope the police got involved.
    This could turn out to have nothing to do with him but if it does and he is the cause of that woman's pain,he absolutely deserves to go sit behind bars for awhile. If you don't want to agree with that mentality,that's fine.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 11:06AM

    The friend of the girlfriend that made this public posted this message with the pics showing the damage. Sounds like she's without a doubt that McCoy did this to her friend.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 11:17AM

    @erikthredd said:

    @galaxy27 said:

    @erikthredd said:

    Even if this just cost him his job and money in a civil suit that would still be a somewhat stiff punishment.

    this is the type of mentality i'm arguing against. go look at that picture again -- that girl looks like death warmed over. and stripping him of his job and money would be somewhat stiff? i'll tell you what would be stiff........LeSean getting one hour per day to see sunlight.

    If he did beat her,and thats a BIG IF,he deserves to go to jail whether you think the picture looks worse than it probably is. Then add in the dog & kid involvement and this could be much worse than what's been made public,that's why i said i hope the police got involved.
    This could turn out to have nothing to do with him but if it does and he is the cause of that woman's pain,he absolutely deserves to go sit behind bars for awhile. If you don't want to agree with that mentality,that's fine.

    well, seeing as your mentality shifted from the sentence i quoted previously, i no longer disagree with you.

    listen, i just have zero tolerance for any male who lays a finger on a female in an unwarranted fashion. if you possess such little self-control that you resort to getting physical with a defenseless woman, then you are more than deserving of a 6 X 8 timeout.

    if Shady had not one thing to do with her look and all of the alleged stories never happened, i'll be back here to apologize for jumping the gun. but i'm confident that i won't have to put my fingers to use. we have been here, done this many, many times with nfl players.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:
    The friend of the girlfriend that made this public posted this message with the pics showing the damage. Sounds like she's without a doubt that McCoy did this to her friend.

    She just wrote his 'roid rage' defense for his lawyer.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 11:26AM

    @galaxy27 you went from saying he'll get nothing but a slap on the wrist to now you're defending the woman yet called me out for what,i have no idea. I said he deserves prison time if this was true from the start. My losing his job & money comment was in response to you acting like nothing would happen to him. My point was even if it came down to his employment & checkbook,its gonna cost him in the end then you made it about my mentality. Nowhere in this thread did my mentality change,he's scum if any of the allegations are true.
    I hope law enforcement does get involved to dig deeper into that woman's comments on what he did. She basically just described him as Ray Rice,Michael Vick & Adrian Peterson all in one.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here, i will break it down and then i'm going to eject until it all plays out. he will receive a slap on the wrist = no jail time.
    if culpable, emptying his wallet and even permanently losing his chosen form of employment is NOT stiff enough. but you know and i know that's the worst thing that will happen to him, because these guys play by a different set of rules. they (figuratively and, sometimes, literally) get away with murder. Dez Bryant struck his mother in the face.....charges dismissed. Ray Rice decked his girlfriend on vid.......charges dismissed. i could go on ad nauseam.

    i can tell you without a moment's hesitation that if i ever did something even remotely similar, i'd completely lose my livelihood and have an unwelcome appendage stuck in me for a while.

    and if anyone reading this thinks the playing field of the law is equal for professional athletes and average Joes, google your way to Leonard Little's story sometime

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    here, i will break it down and then i'm going to eject until it all plays out. he will receive a slap on the wrist = no jail time.
    if culpable, emptying his wallet and even permanently losing his chosen form of employment is NOT stiff enough. but you know and i know that's the worst thing that will happen to him, because these guys play by a different set of rules. they (figuratively and, sometimes, literally) get away with murder. Dez Bryant struck his mother in the face.....charges dismissed. Ray Rice decked his girlfriend on vid.......charges dismissed. i could go on ad nauseam.

    i can tell you without a moment's hesitation that if i ever did something even remotely similar, i'd completely lose my livelihood and have an unwelcome appendage stuck in me for a while.

    and if anyone reading this thinks the playing field of the law is equal for professional athletes and average Joes, google your way to Leonard Little's story sometime

    I would agree with that in most other instances but like i said above the pic putting a face to this victim might make this different than other player's incidents other than Ray Rice. I don't remember seeing any pictures of the damage done to Dez's mother after and with Greg Hardy the images that were made public didn't look as bad as this one. Then add if any of the other allegations involving the dog & kid are true,this might not go away as quick as some may think. We'll see.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,538 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If he did this, put him in a cell with Ray Rice, and feed them top shelf dog food. Looks like both are animals. Sad...

    Dave

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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ESPN updated their story saying this:
    "In response to inquiries from ESPN and ABC News into McCoy and the alleged victim, police in Milton, Georgia, released a statement saying they were investigating an early morning home invasion in the Atlanta suburb that sent an unidentified woman to a local hospital with unknown injuries. Police also said a second woman sustained a minor injury during the incident.

    "The preliminary investigation indicates that this residence was specifically targeted by the suspect or suspects, and not a random incident," police said in the statement. "When officers arrived they found one victim who had been physically assaulted by a lone intruder. During the altercation, the suspect demanded specific items from the victim."

    Police did not identify any suspect in what was termed an active investigation. Court records show that McCoy owns a home on the street of the incident as identified by police."

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 10, 2018 4:31PM

    This sounds like it's torn right out of the Rae Carruth playbook.



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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    not to be glib but wasn't his career ruined when he signed with the Bills

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,806 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:
    not to be glib but wasn't his career ruined when he signed with the Bills

    You glib? NEVER

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My buddy is a HUGE Bills fan, Bills Mafia all the way and he texted me all upset about this being bad for his Bills, I told him to look on the bright side... I said Allen will need a couple years to develop and Brady is almost done so in reality by the time all this happens McCoy would be too old to be effective anyways,he actually agreed with me lol

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    League of thugs. Buy your tickets, swill your $9 beer and then feign disgust when the flag haters exercise their brutality.

    This story makes Jameis Winston look like a boy scout.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    May as well add this to the blotter.--

    The La Verne (Calif.) Police Department announced Tuesday that former Seahawks cornerback Brandon Browner will be arraigned Tuesday afternoon on several felony charges, including attempted murder.

    He is being held on $10 million bail.

    The charges stem from an incident involving Browner that occurred July 8. According to the original NBC L.A. report, Browner allegedly broke into a residence through a locked window and physically harmed and made threats to a victim inside the residence. Browner was arrested and charged with several felonies, including burglary, false imprisonment, and violation of a restraining order

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Watch McCoy's lawyer blame it on CTE.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018 2:28AM

    Exactly Steve! I look at that CTE being used as an attempted excuse more and more, just like outside of the athletic world where they use the “He/she has a drug problem” excuse for everything

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's an update in the details of this home invasion taken from weei's site
    "Georgia police are now investigating the home invasion at McCoy’s house and Cordon’s attorney released a statement suggesting her side believes McCoy was the one who broke into the home.

    “The assailant demanded specific items of jewelry that had been previously gifted to Ms. Cordon by Mr. McCoy, which Mr. McCoy had requested back on many occasions,” the statement from the lawyer said. “In fact, after Ms. Cordon refused to return her jewelry gifts to Mr. McCoy, he would often suggest to Ms. Cordon that she could be robbed because the jewelry was expensive.”

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe Mr. McCoy felt he was being "disrespected".

    If that happens to a pro football player, watch out. You never know how he will respond and react.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just heard on facebook that he hired Michael Vick to break in and beat the girlfriend and the dog was collateral damage , I mean Vick gotta Vick when theres a dog about

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure if McCoy realizes it yet or not, but he just went from being rich to being broke...only a question of when.

    Firstly, his criminal defense lawyers will try to drain him dry. The basic strategy of defense lawyers with a rich client, isn't to defend their client in their client's best interest, but to keep the legal proceedings going for as long as possible, racking up as much attorney's fees as possible.

    Secondly, then in the civil lawsuit to follow, the same thing will happen with the civil defense lawyers.

    Then a winning plaintiff, civil lawsuit judgement will grab whatever McCoy has left if anything.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t know Steve, he has millions. No doubt he will take a potential financial hit but honestly if he is connected to this in any way he will be going to jail for a very long time. Will he be broke? I’m not sure, lawyers will take a lot but how many millions can actually be charged? I’d say a civil suit following a guilty in some way verdict could drain quite a bit but again this guy has millions.

  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    depends on what kind of lifestyle he lives. if he blows money like Vince Young did, who knows what is left

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If he's broke he's been blowing some major coin. He's heading into year 4 of a 5yr/40M deal where he's made 29M already. His career earnings have him just over 52M made. Unless this piece of jewelry is some priceless family heirloom he should have just cut his losses and moved on with his life.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I don’t know Steve, he has millions. No doubt he will take a potential financial hit but honestly if he is connected to this in any way he will be going to jail for a very long time. Will he be broke? I’m not sure, lawyers will take a lot but how many millions can actually be charged? I’d say a civil suit following a guilty in some way verdict could drain quite a bit but again this guy has millions.

    Well, perhaps you're right about the defense lawyers not getting everything.

    However likely if not definitely, I think the winning civil judgement against him would then get everything.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,696 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinpalice said:
    depends on what kind of lifestyle he lives. if he blows money like Vince Young did, who knows what is left

    He left a 20-cent tip at a restaurant a while back. This will cost a lot more than that. The jewelry thing coincides with that kind of cheapness. So what if she has your jewelry? You're making a fortune, let it go.



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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sometimes it’s better to just give the Ex what they want and move on, I mean fight through the courts for child custody stuff but jewelry and cars? Gimme a break, Personally I’m from the school that once I give a girl a piece of jewelry and we break up after, it was a gift so she keeps it. A house with someone living in it no doubt is a nightmare, you have to exercise major patience with the courts to get someone evicted. In short material stuff is not worth committing a horrific crime over. Let alone when your financially set! McCoy might be a guy who just hates woman and his true colors are coming out? But without getting ahead of myself I absolutely want more facts before I label this kid as a monster for this.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always stated this to family and friends who are going thru a divorce, "Don't make the lawyers rich"

    Fortunately in every instance, they heeded the advice. They rather quickly came up with a reasonable split of the assets, and reasonable child custody arrangements without ruining themselves financially with attorney fees.

    Most lawyers are parasites, they may even consider that to be a compliment. But the worst ones could be divorce lawyers. They will very cleverly stir the pot between the couple, just to keep the meter running on their hourly fees. Often without the couple fully realizing it because the couple's anger towards each other clouds their better judgment.

    Always remember this, lawyers are not your friends. They are simply independent contractors who have expertise in the legal system, who you hire to do a job for you with a legal matter, and that's it.

    With McCoy, this wasn't even a divorce. It was a gift to a girlfriend and to my knowledge, he has no legal recourse to force her to return the gifts. He of course can ask to have the gifts back, but she is under no obligation to return anything.

    The courts will decide whether or not McCoy is guilty, which in my opinion appears that he obviously is guilty. I think that McCoy will certainly lose his job in the NFL, lose much or all of his money, and could lose his freedom as well with a prison sentence.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 11, 2018 11:57PM

    If he is guiltily then losing it all would be a just punishment on top of jail time

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  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭

    It is interesting how people sometimes pretend like it is only athletes that act irrationally in relationships that have blown up. Read the news sometimes about how much horrific domestic violence occurs by non-athletes.

    The story as currently reported doesn't look good for McCoy and if he is guilty I hope he spends a very long time in jail and comes out penniless. It certainly looks very bad at the moment but in these sort of high profile cases the facts normally come out eventually.

    Stevek has a lot of misconceptions about attorneys but that really isn't much of a surprise. Of course there are terrible ones but coming from a family of lawyers that is more the exception than the rule. My father worked as a family law/divorce attorney after completing his time in the military and what you claimed is about as far from the truth as you can get. He ended up retiring early because the cases, especially custody cases, tore him up. People can be truly horrible and vindictive and lawyers have a ethical obligation to represent their clients interests to the best of their ability regardless of whether or not they personally agree with a course of action. What you fail to mention is that people are freaking crazy especially when the relationship is no longer amicable. But Stevek you consistently spout uninformed nonsense so not exactly a shock.

    Robb

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 12, 2018 3:37AM

    Robb, please. Spare us your long winded eloquent nonsense. I spent 20 years in the Law Enforcement industry and know and seen first hand that most lawyers will drag things out for their client and for themselves especially when there is a bottomless pit of money ie: the state or a wealthy individual so stop it about that nonsense concerning lawyers. Sure I bet your family is a very nice group of ethical hardworking lawyers, there are some that are genuine good ethical lawyers out there but trust me they are in the minority. I’ve known hundreds of lawyers and they usually are not good people. I can say the same about a lot of Law Enforcement too so don’t think I’m one sided.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am a lawyer and have been practicing law for 36+ years, mostly real property cases. There are lawyers who are some of the finest people around and there are some who are horrible.

    The interesting thing is that while there are many complaints about lawyers, many times it is not the lawyers who are the problem. The problem is the client. Clients can be bat crap crazy and evil. Any lawyer who ends up representing a client like this has my sympathy. Clients can fire lawyers at any time. Many times a lawyer cannot fire a client.

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