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Rarity assessment: 1901/801-Cn Q Gold Peso

Senator32Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Mexican coin experts: I just sent this coin in and it was verified to be an 1901/801-Cn Q Peso. The coin is clearly this over-date, but what makes it interesting is it is the only one that PCGS has seen; moreover, while I can find records of 1901/801-Mo pesos and even a 1901/801-Cn 5 Centavos I can find no record of any other 1901/801-Cn Q Peso to exist. From an original mintage of only 2,350 it is possible that the number of over-dates at this mint was extremely low....could this be the only example? I welcome any information anyone has.

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  • WorldCoinsDmitryWorldCoinsDmitry Posts: 367 ✭✭✭
    edited June 21, 2018 10:05PM

    This one looks like most other examples of a Cn gold peso of this date. The double 0 and the line in the 9 included.

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  • Senator32Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WorldCoinsDmitry Ok - so you think most are just unattributed? I have seen other Cn gold from this date with doubling, but never with a clear overdate. AN interesting coin in any event...but you can see the difference in striking quality between Mo and Cn :smile:

  • tonedSilvertonedSilver Posts: 153 ✭✭✭

    Maybe PCGS mis attributed Mexico City mint instead of Culiacan mint.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like high quality Mexican gold pesos and avidly collect them.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a fav.

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  • Senator32Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:

    NICE! Love that example and the grade. The Mo coins always seem to be bade MUCH better than the Cn coins. I have seen other Mo examples of this overdate....still excited to see if I can find anymore Cn overdates...thinking it may be fairly rare.

  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭


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  • WorldCoinsDmitryWorldCoinsDmitry Posts: 367 ✭✭✭

    @Senator32 said:

    @bidask said:

    I have seen other Mo examples of this overdate....still excited to see if I can find anymore Cn overdates...thinking it may be fairly rare.

    Search Heritage auction archives. Most coins exhibit the same thing as yours. Seems to be more common than a normal date.

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  • Senator32Senator32 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WorldCoinsDmitry Appreciate the feedback. I do see a few that match mine on HA. Most seem to be the die that @bidask linked up above... the 1901/0-Cn NOT the 1901/801-Cn. If you look at the TrueView of the one you posted above you can see it is clearly not the same overdate:

    That being said Dimitry appears correct that others exists unattributed. With an original mintage of just 2350 coins, I wonder how many of each variety exists...no premium but still cool. (example of one the same die as mine: https://coins.ha.com/itm/mexico/world-coins/mexico-republic-gold-peso-1901-cn-q-ms64-ngc-/a/231824-62264.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515)

  • WorldCoinsDmitryWorldCoinsDmitry Posts: 367 ✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2018 10:45PM

    Most examples of this coin have that doubled 0, the 1901/0 variety does not. That being said, your coin looks very similar to the Mo overdate of the same year. Not sure why it was never attributed as such, or as anything else. It may just be the "normal" version for the year and the 1901/0 is the variety.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are all my other CN M mint gold pesos.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice !!! :)

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang! I want one now! >:)

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