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PCGS AU53 1877-CC $20 Gold Liberty on eBay
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I have been unable to post the link to the auction (maybe someone can help). When I look up the certification number (81767930) at PCGS there is no record in their database. What does this mean?
The bidding has been light, considering the value of the coin. The seller has 100 percent feedback but apparently has not sold anything in over a year?
I would appreciate any insight into this.
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Get a invalid on the QRC to. Tried to read with my phone.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-CC-20-Gold-Liberty-Head-Double-Eagle-PCGS-AU53-Rare-US-Coin/183279913962?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Could be newly graded - won’t show up until the next database update. If you want the coin, buy it - eBay guaranteed
Coin looks legit from the pics but check sellers feedback. Only 1 as a seller and over a year ago, and that buyer is no longer registered to boot. Could mean nothing but raises some suspicion, personally I'd steer clear.
Edit: When I click the auction and zoom on pictures the date starts looking like it's just not right. Be careful.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
HA coin, same grade:
One more:
I see what you are saying about the date compared to the HA example.
I’d say the above coin is a fake; the mm looks like an “s”
Always so hard to tell from a picture. I thought we were safe with the newest slab generation, for awhile at least. If it is in fact fake pretty scary because the slab looks good.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
Horrible picture. Can't say for sure, but something looks off about the coin. If you are interested, it is probably worth a call to PCGS customer service to see if they can verify the registration number. The slab looks damn good - best fake slab I've seen if it actually is fake.
Take a look at the date:
Wonder if this means anything... the next cert number shows an 1877-CC $20 graded Unc details - altered surfaces
Look like some pretty significant obverse marks for the grade in my opinion.
At present, a modest price for a 77-CC -- but there are a lot in that kind of EF condition, and buyers by date/mint of Liberty DE are rarer than some of the coins.
Photo, especially the reverse, is horrible. Can't see buying a coin on eBay when you can't even see it clearly!
Coin was in the PCGS database, but is not now. I know they will pull the number if they are reported stolen.
As Mr. Burdette so astutely observed a couple days ago: "There are always outliers, even with very precise standards. The modern defalcation of accurate grading is not an outlier. It is more like a path of plain "lies" that distort, confuse and mislead collectors. Of course, collectors are ultimately to blame -- as a group they have permitted this abuse of honesty and "bought in" to institutionalized falsehood."
On this particular orbicular denticled brilliant valuable, whether it is the genuine article and may I say "the real McCoy" or an impostor, a fake and of questionable authenticity will no doubt be established by the experts. The tpgs came into existence at least partly and by and large to establish first of all authenticity. It appears this one carries with it unknowns in that regard.
I understand the cert comes up for PCGS; apparently originally graded in 2016.
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Could I ask how you found this information?
Interesting !!!
I messaged the seller yesterday about not finding the cert. Number, he has not responded.
Link no longer valid... guess it was pulled....Cheers, RickO
Even if the cert. number matched and the coin was real, why would anyone buy this with essentially worthless pictures and a no return policy?
This listing (**********) has been removed, or this item is not available.
Another scam listing bites the dust!
Me too,so I guess we got the answer we wanted. Auction is dead.