Because the markings would seem to be aligned at 12 and 6 o'clock, and not at random, I would guess that the protrusions are the remains of some sort of jewelry mounting that the coin later was broken out of.
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I don’t completely follow the inquiry, but if the coin was overstruck on an 8 reales, it could be traces of the original “colonial edge”. Coin could be a “mint sport” or a contemporary counterfeit.
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@CaptHenway ....I may be misreading the letter, but it says "..at the woman's head and foot of eagle'...I would interpret that to mean only ONE set of markings, since that description indicates the same location between obverse and reverse...ICBW....In either case, I agree with you that the marks are likely the result of jewelry mounting... Cheers, RickO
The author sent a previous letter but it lacked the little diagram and carbon paper impression. Next time I'm at NARA maybe I can find the outgoing letter from the Mint.
I've been looking at all the counterfeit coin documents for just that identifying mark. So far, there have been few details given about any of the fakes.
@ricko said: @CaptHenway ....I may be misreading the letter, but it says "..at the woman's head and foot of eagle'...I would interpret that to mean only ONE set of markings, since that description indicates the same location between obverse and reverse...ICBW....In either case, I agree with you that the marks are likely the result of jewelry mounting... Cheers, RickO
Ah, you may be right. I could not read that word "woman's."
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Odd way to mount jewelry....Large coins were not popular for jewelry use back then. Mostly gold dollars, $3 and $2.50s. Europeans especially seemed to prefer sizes smaller than a sovereign.
@RogerB said:
Odd way to mount jewelry....Large coins were not popular for jewelry use back then. Mostly gold dollars, $3 and $2.50s. Europeans especially seemed to prefer sizes smaller than a sovereign.
You have never lived out West, I take it. Silver dollars made fine jewelry!
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Because the markings would seem to be aligned at 12 and 6 o'clock, and not at random, I would guess that the protrusions are the remains of some sort of jewelry mounting that the coin later was broken out of.
I don’t completely follow the inquiry, but if the coin was overstruck on an 8 reales, it could be traces of the original “colonial edge”. Coin could be a “mint sport” or a contemporary counterfeit.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@CaptHenway ....I may be misreading the letter, but it says "..at the woman's head and foot of eagle'...I would interpret that to mean only ONE set of markings, since that description indicates the same location between obverse and reverse...ICBW....In either case, I agree with you that the marks are likely the result of jewelry mounting... Cheers, RickO
Could someone translate it? I do not speak script.
The author sent a previous letter but it lacked the little diagram and carbon paper impression. Next time I'm at NARA maybe I can find the outgoing letter from the Mint.
Too bad we'll never know if it had a micro-O mintmark.
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I've been looking at all the counterfeit coin documents for just that identifying mark. So far, there have been few details given about any of the fakes.
Ah, you may be right. I could not read that word "woman's."
Odd way to mount jewelry....Large coins were not popular for jewelry use back then. Mostly gold dollars, $3 and $2.50s. Europeans especially seemed to prefer sizes smaller than a sovereign.
You have never lived out West, I take it. Silver dollars made fine jewelry!
I'll dismiss jewelry also. Otherwise, this is the most remarkable mount ever used for a silver dollar. Andy's post covers the best answers.