Grade me - 1914-D Quarter Eagle

KollectorKing

Azurescens

MS 60-mine.

I never used to like these but now I see so many gems you folks post and I'm getting an itch

ChrisH821

58? Tough to tell

Smudge

@ChrisH821 said:
58? Tough to tell

+1 but I stink at grading these.

Jimnight

61

grip

55/58 tough series for me to grade.

blitzdude

XF45, maybe a stretch to AU50, congrats

batumi

ms61

skier07

I don’t think an Indian $2.5 can be graded from a picture with any degree of accuracy.

thefinn

MS62, maybe 63.

crazyhounddog

It looks 62ish. I love those pretty little Indian quarter eagles and the half eagles. A beautiful design. One of my favorite coins.
Nice piece.

ricko

This one looks 55... in hand, maybe 50....My favorite gold coin design.... Cheers, RickO

Insider2

I cannot take photos this good, but IMO, you need a different camera or lighting as the image is flat. The coin is loaded with luster so it will be graded MS in spite of a little friction. Due to the image, it is at least a "commercial" Unc - MS-62 so I'll hold my nose and guess it has been graded MS-63.

astrorat

Perhaps it's the lighting, but it looks to be ex-jewelry. There looks to be a bezel ring around much of the obv and rev.

KollectorKing

Insider2

@astrorat said:
Perhaps it's the lighting, but it looks to be ex-jewelry. There looks to be a bezel ring around much of the obv and rev.

That "ring" you see is common for some dates in this series. It indicates "worn dies." I don't recall seeing this on a counterfeit - yet.

astrorat

@Insider2 said:

@astrorat said:
Perhaps it's the lighting, but it looks to be ex-jewelry. There looks to be a bezel ring around much of the obv and rev.

That "ring" you see is common for some dates in this series. It indicates "worn dies." I don't recall seeing this on a counterfeit - yet.

Thanks, I was not aware of that diagnostic for worn dies.

jwitten

@astrorat said:
Perhaps it's the lighting, but it looks to be ex-jewelry. There looks to be a bezel ring around much of the obv and rev.

1914-D, 1925-D, and 1910 are common to have this ring.

astrorat

@jwitten said:

@astrorat said:
Perhaps it's the lighting, but it looks to be ex-jewelry. There looks to be a bezel ring around much of the obv and rev.

1914-D, 1925-D, and 1910 are common to have this ring.

Additional thanks.

Smudge

Nice grade, lovely coin.

blitzdude

wow severely overgraded. Don't ever crack that one. Maybe try for sticker then quickly dump it on fleabay.

PerryHall

That ring just inside the edge is actually "die erosion". As others have pointed out, it's indicative of a worn out die.

Insider2

@blitzdude said:
wow severely overgraded. Don't ever crack that one. Maybe try for sticker then quickly dump it on fleabay.

I disagree. All of us posting can discuss the coin. You can start. Please explain your position - "severely overgraded" - by addressing what you see on the coin concerning:

1. Luster
2. Marks
3. Strike
4. Eye appeal

RogerB

Can't tell much from the photos.... You don't need a new camera, just better lighting.

crazyhounddog

@blitzdude said:
wow severely overgraded. Don't ever crack that one. Maybe try for sticker then quickly dump it on fleabay.

I disagree. Not over graded at all from what I see in fact I almost said 63. I think you’re being pretty rough on this coin .

Insider2

@crazyhounddog said: " I think you’re being pretty rough on this coin."

I don't think "rough" is the appropriate description. Hopefully, as soon as the member replies with his observations, we can possibly guide him to refine his opinion.

KollectorKing

@RogerB said:
Can't tell much from the photos.... You don't need a new camera, just better lighting.

What part of these photos need improvement?

Insider2

too pixelated - especially obverse.

asheland

MS62 was my grade. I have a 62 and mine looks similar.

RogerB

What parts need improvement.... Well, compare your photo to one of those made by PCGS of the same date/mint coin. Examine highlight and shadow detail, over all sharpness and resolution. Digital photos direct from the camera can be sharpened a little, but too much creates "pixel noise" and excess image compression with JPEG (or others) adds an additional layer of defect. For Pratt's sunk relief design you want to be able to show a lot of field detail - it's the highest part and often the first to show wear. Then the highest parts of the indian and eagle.

There are a bunch of good threads on here about coin photography.

Here's a PCGS 1914-D photo: