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New 1854 Mexico 1/2 Real with an interesting artifact

ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I purchased this 1854 1/2 Real for $5. Any idea what the "8" above the eagle is? It is 100% raised and looks like it came from the die. It doesn't look like solder or anything like that. I looked up the coin in krause and there is no mention of this. Same with numista. Anyone have an idea of what this could be?

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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to me that on the reverse, after the date and before the assayer, there are the marks of the stamped 8. So I guess this is a counterstamp. No clue from where however. Nice.

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    ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo Is it possible to be a counter-stamp even though its raised on the surface of the coin?

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    bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess if they counterstamped the die it would be raised :o

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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2018 8:16PM

    Have you determine it to be authentic yet?


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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2018 5:07PM

    PMD. Someone poled two holes into the coin right next to each other.

    Perhaps @WorldCoinsDmitry has seen one of these before.

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    AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ShadyDave said:
    @Abuelo Is it possible to be a counter-stamp even though its raised on the surface of the coin?

    Sure. Depends on how is done. As I said, there are marks on both sides. Yet it is only a theory.

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    pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The two dimples over the “.” after the 1854 probably mean it is PMD.

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    WorldCoinsDmitryWorldCoinsDmitry Posts: 367 ✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2018 6:56PM

    @Insider2 said:
    PMD. Someone poled two holes into the coin right next to each other.

    Perhaps @WorldCoinsDmitry has seen one of these before.

    Agree it's PMD. I love the cap and rays types :)

    Highly enthusiastic about world coins, contemporary circulating counterfeits and unusual stuff <3

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool !!! B)

    Timbuk3
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    ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting, thanks for the information. I've never seen PMD like this before, so I learned something new today!

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,792 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've done something to get an effect like this before - punch a letter into a steel plate, put the coin on it, and hit the coin on the side facing up. The coin is pushed against the letter punched in the plate and a raised character is the result. Yours is very neatly done if that is what happened, though,

    Maybe some close-ups of the rev. where those two "dots" are?

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking solder residue from when coin was attached to something else. Peace Roy

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