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Re: My latest NEWP for the 12pc gold set ~ 1905 QE
Thanks everybody!
And I agree that type two dollar is gonna be brutal!
If I never succeed, at least I do have an example. It’s just a 58 though and I’m keeping it regardless because it’s such a nice example…


Re: What would you consider as average percentage premium for a Toner?
I would deduct value. I generally prefer my coins without rust.
Re: How do you handle hagglers at shows?
I use one of those fly swatter electric tennis rackets.
Meltdown
Re: The Official NGC 3.0 Holder Census Thread Updated April 24, 2026
Thanks @TomB for the post and for sharing my database of the Gen 3.0.
It is important to note that I started this census of Gen 3.0's in 2019 and I search though 1000's of listings online everyday. Of course, I am going to miss some along the way but I am also surprised at how few have been added over the years.
Re: The Official NGC 3.0 Holder Census Thread Updated April 24, 2026
Here are my 11. The only one on your spreadsheet is the Morgan, which is erroneously listed as a gen 4 and was added pre-CAC (it's now gold CAC).



Re: Let's see some colorful Mercury Dimes!
My youngest son noticed my penchant for frosty white and suggested I expand my horizons. This recent acquisition was for him although I'm still not a fan. 
PapiNE
The Official NGC 3.0 Holder Census Thread Updated April 24, 2026
PCGS forum member @86Saab has built and expanded a fabulous database of observed NGC 3.0 holders and the coins in them. As of the date this thread started there are 2,598 NGC 3.0 slabs recorded and the database also includes quite a few NGC 4.0 coins, as well. A Google Docs spreadsheet is linked below in view-only format for those who would like to see what has been observed thus far.
What is the NGC 3.0 holder?
Using the slab numbering system for regular production slabs made popular through the work of Conder101, the NGC 3.0 holder was the first holder offered by NGC that paired the previously used gold embossed reverse NGC logo with a new obverse paper insert that incorporated the NGC scales logo. All known NGC 3.0 holders have the embossed reverse logo done on the outer side of the slab plastic such that the embossing can be felt with the fingers while the obverse side paper insert has been seen with ink color ranging anywhere from a brown-grey through a rather vivid lime green.
Images of four NGC 3.0 holders are shown below. The first pair of images is a comparison of the obverse from two slabs. The Roosevelt dime has the more commonly found brown-grey ink while the Mercury dime has the lass frequently seen vivid lime green ink. The second pair of images is a comparison of how the raised embossed logo might appear. The Washington quarter has a sharply raised embossed logo in deep gold while the Franklin half has a less vivid embossed logo in lighter gold.


The difference in ink color has been attributed to ink degradation in combination with lot-to-lot variation in the stability of the ink used during insert printing. This has been confirmed in direct conversation with John Albanese, founder of NGC as well as CAC and CACG. The variation in embossing depth and color on the reverse appears to be due to wear as the upper reverse was a common area for dealer stickers and price codes to be placed and the removal of stickers as well as residual glue from them appears to have affected some slabs more than others.
So, all NGC 3.0 holders have a raised gold embossed NGC logo on the reverse paired with a paper insert incorporating the NGC scales logo on the obverse.
We would like your help. If you have NGC 3.0 slabbed coins in your collection, or you see one online for sale or at auction, we would love to add them to the database. Optimally, you can provide obverse and reverse slab shots with the coin inside and place them within this thread. It is important for us to be able to read the paper insert in the slab in order to add the certification information to the database.
Another thread that details the production window and likely numbers of NGC 3.0 slabs produced is linked below-
Thank you!
TomB









