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Re: Historical CAC Gold & Green Sticker Rates Across All Series

While, generally, I wouldn't say I like when the first comment in a thread goes off topic, I think it would be a shame for us all not to take a moment to recognize that this is an exceptional example of how discussion threads are supposed to be presented.

  1. Clear and effective thread title that leaves readers with no questions about the content of the thread. Cacmudgeons cant say they thought it would be about something else.

  2. First paragraph expands on the title and gives a direct objective of the discussion.

  3. Body gives context to the topic and uses specific examples of the data they are using. as the basis, as if the readers may or may not have any knowledge of it beforehand.

  4. Author provides their own observations and gathered data sets from their own experience, using precise language to differentiate their (well informed) opinion from any demontratable facts.

  5. Sets an expectation for the type of answers they are hoping to receive, and reminds us again what the objective is, and what we could takeaway from an educational standpoint.

These are the type of threads that typically yield the best discussions, and are the least likely to to devolve into trolling and worthless arguments. When you give your thread the best chance of success, the entire forum benefits and we all learn more as a result. Newer forum members might want to take note of how this topic is presented, and also take note of Tom's reputation here, well-respected and highly regarded as "one of guys you should listen to".

Anyway, I do apologize for the OT tangent but I felt that it was time for a reminder, as threads like this seem less frequent in recent times. PLEASE do not quote me or respond to this comment, as I want Tom's beautiful post to stay on track. If you must, send me a pm or use another thread.

Re: 1833 Capped Bust Half Rattler.....GTG Grade Revealed

It looks like you included the assigned grade in the first image posted, but I won't tell anyone. ;)

TomBTomB

Re: 1833 Capped Bust Half Rattler.....GTG Grade Revealed

Slab grade AU-50. Yes, it might come back as “cleaned” today although I don’t see and “organized” cleaning likes.

It’s not a “look” that I would buy for my collection, but the coin is well struck with all of the design details defined.

Re: Want to see an X ??

A bit sad, but totally amazing at the same time

Re: Nice holiday card from ICG

@jwitten said:

@SeattleSlammer said:
Not meant as snark at all — but I don’t understand why one would send coins to them given their status in the marketplace.

Nice card nonetheless!

Price is one. Willingness to slab counterfeits is another.

I imagine the turnaround time is also far less.

Re: Nice holiday card from ICG

@SeattleSlammer said:
Not meant as snark at all — but I don’t understand why one would send coins to them given their status in the marketplace.

Nice card nonetheless!

I strongly disagree; many of their certified coins are just as good and sometimes better than the top tier companies in the under $500 price range. People submit to them because the top tier companies are slow and expensive. Both of them have been bought out by hedge funds/private equity bent on cutting costs. "Buy the coin and not the holder" has been true for decades since grading services came about, first to circumvent the counterfeit problem. ICG and Anacs have real guarantees, and I've invoked the guarantee on grade with them more than once as I have with PCGS and NGC which take longer. I see them as useful especially in the under $500 range in coins. Once you get into major multi-thousand dollar coins, only PCGS and NGC and cac have real marketability. If you have a good picture with the certification you have a much better idea of the value than with a raw coin.

Re: NGC and scuffed up plastic! Grrr.... 1864 2 Cent

I bet Phil would lite this coin up if it were photographed by him. You can see all the color on the surface.
Very nice coin.