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S.S. Central America discoverer has been arrested

Saw this randomly on the news. I often use the SS Central America sinking in 1857 and the ensuing bank problems that followed to explain to non-numismatists how you can learn a bunch about history of a society by looking at the history of money. That you can buy the 1857-S $20's and such with provenance tied to the shipwreck also impresses folks who don't collect coins. That said, I had no idea about the problems associated with the investors and that the guy who found the ship had been a fugitive for many years.

Fugitive Treasure Hunter Arrested in Florida

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    OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, that's big news.
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    DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Finally!

    I'm glad they nabbed that crook.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't it amazing how gold can wreck a person's life?
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    U.S. Marshals Service tracked him down. This announcement right before the release of the comm. coin.

    Alex
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What !!! image
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    MarkMark Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Re U.S. Marshals Service tracked him down. : Someone ought to buy Thompson one of the gold coins and then give it to him as a present.
    Mark


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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This will be something we'll be watching for a long time as the court case goes on. It should be interesting.

    I can't wait until what's being recovered now makes it's way to the market.

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    FredFFredF Posts: 526 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I can't wait until what's being recovered now makes it's way to the market. >>



    Is there stuff that he's hoarding? I thought that he allegedly pocketed the cash from the sale and didn't give the investors their share. Are there more coins out there?

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    CuKevinCuKevin Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I can't wait until what's being recovered now makes it's way to the market. >>



    Is there stuff that he's hoarding? I thought that he allegedly pocketed the cash from the sale and didn't give the investors their share. Are there more coins out there? >>



    A significant portion of what was on the ship was never recovered. Odyssey (OMEX) was recently given permission to excavate the rest of the ship. Eventually they will end up selling most everything they recover.
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    With his financial resources, there is no reason - other than abject stupidity - that he was caught. Unbelievable...Cheers, RickO
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    EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FredFFredF Posts: 526 ✭✭✭
    Update - pleaded guilty to contempt for failure to appear on the warrant, and forfeited $425k in cash found on them when they were arrested in Florida.

    Former Fugitive Treasure Hunter Pleads Guilty to Contempt in Ohio

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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Wow! 3 hots and a cot for you!
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    planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bob Evans on the disposition of the SS Central America from 2013 >>



    Fascinating article and a quick read. Thanks.
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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I often use the SS Central America sinking in 1857 and the ensuing bank problems that followed to explain to non-numismatists how you can learn a bunch about history of a society by looking at the history of money. >>



    i like saying to people, "if you want to follow history, follow the money."

    interesting read. thanks. image
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy has got be one of the dumbest crooks on the planet. Even if he got only 5% of the take, that's over $5 million. I guess that was not enough, and I'm sure he was entitled to more than that.

    From what I understand he was trying get away with a bunch of those "coins' that were made from melted gold bars. To me all those things were nothing more than glorified bullion. He would have better off with pieces of the original bars.
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    planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    BillJ, do you mean those restrikes?
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>BillJ, do you mean those restrikes? >>



    Yes, the restrikes that aren't really restrikes from what I've read about them. Restrikes are made from the original dies, "restruck," at a later date. These things were made from copy dies.

    From what I read in the non numismatic press it seemed like he had over a million dollars in those things.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    planetsteveplanetsteve Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭✭
    Interesting, thanks. Sounds like the whole affair is a rat's nest of lawsuits.

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