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quite a coin on ebay imo - just a knockout
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without further ado: an 1802 proof *enter salivating emoticon here*
but this is a 2-part post.
also with the many recent changes within ebay, the value select option is now a slider bar and most awesomely reflects *automatically* the highest dollar amount for a given category as the highest option!
useful for me anyway, i won't speak for anyone else.
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without further ado: an 1802 proof *enter salivating emoticon here*
but this is a 2-part post.
also with the many recent changes within ebay, the value select option is now a slider bar and most awesomely reflects *automatically* the highest dollar amount for a given category as the highest option!
useful for me anyway, i won't speak for anyone else.
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Nice and waaaaaaaaaaay out of my league.....
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
I`ve noticed before that seller has some awesome(and high priced) coins
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
They would never sell that through ebay and pay the FEE's...
Bet they get lots of off line inquiries...
and yes FANTASTIC coin..
<< <i>Nice Mark Up >>
August 2012: $851,875.00 on HA
October 2012: $1,207,500.00 on eBay
If so that's $214,500 in fee's
I couldn't afford 2% of the fee's, never mind the coin.
The seller also has a super uber cool 1907 HR in PR69, if anyone is interested
Not only is it HR but xtra high relief, to boot!
1907HRPR69
Like S-9 1856 Flying Eagles, or Type-2 1864-L Indian Cent proofs, or any restrike, or even 1804 dollars.
Guess I'm a purist.
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<< <i>Nice Mark Up >>
August 2012: $851,875.00 on HA
October 2012: $1,207,500.00 on eBay >>
Trying to sell a coin for more than he paid!? The nerve. That auction should be reported!
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
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<< <i>The seller also has a super uber cool 1907 HR in PR69, if anyone is interested
Not only is it HR but xtra high relief, to boot!
1907HRPR69 >>
i'll admit, i did not anticipate nor did it cross my mind that another coin would be linked that would shadow the 1802 Proof, but alas it has been done!
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<< <i>Nice Mark Up >>
August 2012: $851,875.00 on HA
October 2012: $1,207,500.00 on eBay >>
Trying to sell a coin for more than he paid!? The nerve. That auction should be reported! >>
This isn't what you're necessarily suggesting, but auctions have been reported for using HA photos....
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<< <i>Nice Mark Up >>
August 2012: $851,875.00 on HA
October 2012: $1,207,500.00 on eBay >>
Trying to sell a coin for more than he paid!? The nerve. That auction should be reported! >>
This isn't what you're necessarily suggesting, but auctions have been reported for using HA photos.... >>
To me it was just kind of comical that you list a item for $1.25 million and not take the time to get some decent images. I would think someone at both places would of learned how to image a proof like coin by now.
as to the mark-up comment(s). it really does not bode well when one quotes a price that has an OBO option, of course if it need be said it simultaneously becomes a moot point.
now when and if a public SOLD price becomes known, i'll have naught to say.
at least we aren't debating whether proofs existed for US coinage in this time period, although like someone already mentioned, it may perhaps not even come from its' own time period, doh ><
a agree about the purist comment. what are the parameters for the minting of a coin of a particular year? on any day from Jan 1 to Dec 31. I can live with that. i bet there are many that fall outside those dates of the year on the coin.
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<< <i>To me it was just kind of comical that you list a item for $1.25 million and not take the time to get some decent images. I would think someone at both places would of learned how to image a proof like coin by now.
i completely concur. it is just astonishing they don't at least hire someone to come to an undisclosed location to image the coin(s). i understand amount minimizing how much the item gets moved around for the risk.
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<< <i>And using Heritages images in the listing.
Very poor taste on the ebay sellers part (even though the seller is a forum member I think)
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<< <i>And using Heritages images in the listing.
Very poor taste on the ebay sellers part (even though the seller is a forum member I think) >>
No, it's not very poor taste. You buy a coin from a Heritage auction for $850k and I guarantee that HA gladly lets you use their images.
As none were struck in the years depicted
Of course, the most famous issue in the proof Draped Bust Silver Dollar series is the 1804. The Class I examples were created in 1834/1835 for use in special proof sets for presentation to foreign governments. The 1801, 1802 and 1803 novodels, however, appear to have been struck much later, and almost certainly for private purposes by Mint officials. In fact, these coins could have been produced as late as the 1870s during Henry R. Linderman's second term as director of the Mint. It is revealing that these coins all display beaded borders due to having been struck in a close collar - a device that was not in use in the United States Mint during the 1801-1804 era.
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
<< <i>What are the fee's now on Ebay + PP combined, 20%?
If so that's $214,500 in fee's
I couldn't afford 2% of the fee's, never mind the coin.
The seller also has a super uber cool 1907 HR in PR69, if anyone is interested
Not only is it HR but xtra high relief, to boot!
1907HRPR69 >>
One must learn their basic math...eBay fee @2% = $21,450 (assuming you have a eBay store)... PayPal fees...around $30k ...total fees ... slightly over 5%
How much would your major auction houses charge? And what would be the average buyer fee be.?
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<< <i>And using Heritages images in the listing.
Very poor taste on the ebay sellers part (even though the seller is a forum member I think) >>
No, it's not very poor taste. You buy a coin from a Heritage auction for $850k and I guarantee that HA gladly lets you use their images. >>
There is a small likelihood that they consigned the coin to heritage, and supplied those images and then purchased the coin from themselves however I don't think that's the case. This brings to mind a similar thread concerning MPL pennies that was relating to a website (not for profit) that used images without permission.
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
This includes photos of the X-wife and kids
GrandAm
<< <i>Another of the more persistent theories concerning the origin of the 1801-1804 novodel dollars is the one that Walter Breen proposes in his Complete Encyclopedia. Breen asserts that, while the Class I 1804 novodel dollar dies were produced in the 1830s, those of the 1801-1803 pieces trace their roots to the 1850s. Sometime no later than 1858, an unknown party or parties retrieved the “original” 1804 dies of the 1830s from the chief coiner’s vault, along with Robert Scot’s old device punches, and created three new obverse dies backdated 1801, 1802, and 1803. On the latter two dies, the tip of a broken hair curl on the top of Liberty’s head was repaired by hand. The edge lettering on the 1801, 1802, and 1803 novodel proofs is “blundered” (like that on the Class III 1804 dollars), suggesting that this edge lettering was added to the coins by a Castaing machine at some later date, after they were first struck with plain edges. The pieces that these new dies produced remained in the hands of coin dealer William Idler for an unspecified period of time. In 1876, Idler’s son-in-law, Captain John W. Haseltine, revealed the coins to the numismatic community. He was unable to sell the pieces, according to Breen, because collectors dismissed them as fantasy pieces produced within the previous few months. >>
nice summarization. ty
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I didn't realize an Ebay store was so cheap. For a weekend warrior that sells 10 items a month,
aren't the fee's north of 15%? Still don't understand how you came up with 2% of $1,207,500.00 = $21,450
I come up with $24,150, guess I need to work on my basic math skills.
why calculate fees on a price that most likely won't be realized?
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<< <i><<One must learn their basic math...eBay fee @2% = $21,450 (assuming you have a eBay store)>>
I didn't realize an Ebay store was so cheap. For a weekend warrior that sells 10 items a month,
aren't the fee's north of 15%? Still don't understand how you came up with 2% of $1,207,500.00 = $21,450
I come up with $24,150, guess I need to work on my basic math skills. >>
You came up with 214,500 & I transposed the 1&4
Plus, why give away my bid now, since the snipers are laying in their bids.
<< <i>Plus, why give away my bid now, since the snipers are laying in their bids. >>
umm, what?
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