Sure looks like CoinLieutenant's killer 1940-s though I can't recall if his was a 67 or a 68 non-FB. For a 68 it would bother me a bit that the date is not well struck. It takes more than a razor-thin hairline cut to make a true FSB. True FSB's should be as sharp as the vertical or diagonal bands. I'd call this a 20-30% band split with only the very outermost portions being fully split. But I'd accept the upper or low set of bands as qualifying for FSB.
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So for all those that said the coin was a 65 with a bump for color.....are you now saying that not only can NGC not grade but CAC can't grade it either
<< <i>So for all those that said the coin was a 65 with a bump for color.....are you now saying that not only can NGC not grade but CAC can't grade it either >>
Actually, that's not what I'm saying. My opinion is that CAC agreed with NGC that it was a 65 with a three point bump for color. BTW, definitely deserving of the star as well.
1) Grading services have been giving attractive coins grade bumps for color for at least ten years. Most of what I have seen have been exclusively one point bumps, however. 2) To me, a 7 must be a virtually perfect coin. Miss Liberty's cheek, from what I see on this image, would preclude that grade, let alone an 8. 3) I've seen at least ten or twelve of MS 66 Liberty Nickels that were stickered which I didn't think deserved the sticker, but many of these coins imo were overgraded.
Don't think for a minute that just because a particular coin has been given a given grade by a TPG, or a sticker with regard to its quality for the grade, or is deemed to be "market acceptable," that you should merely accept this as gospel. A slab collector does this. As good as the experts are, they make mistakes. And liner coins could be graded differently on different days.
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Well I think one thing that a lot of people that dont collect high MS grade coins dont understand is that there is more to the grade than just the strike and ticks. I think all of us from time to time look at a coin and think what were the graders thinking???? There there are times when we are very pleased with the grade!!! Truth is when grading coins that high eye appeal plays a major roll.If this coin received the MS68* grade then the coin must have "that pop" as I like to call it.If you have held a MS68 in your hand you know what I am talking about. I think NGC and PCGS both do a superb job of determining the grades on the coins.
Here is some photographic proof that the coin can have ticks and achieve high grades. ( I do not own these coins but held the second one in my hands and agree with the grade fully)
PCGS MS69 Full Bands
PCGS MS69 Full Bands
So basically I feel unless we actually have the coin in hand and can just the overall eye appeal and luster there is no way in determining MS68's and 69's simply from the photo.
PS I do not believe the coin in the OP has a nick on the cheek rather its just the toning pattern nor do I think it plays a vital roll....Only time will tell
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Nice coin.
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<< <i>Check out that die polish! >>
Don't you mean harsh cleaning and re-toning???
<< <i>Nice looking coin but isnt strike considered at that grade level?
It seems NGC and PCGS grade differently. I think a bit too weak for 68, but a nice looking dime.
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<< <i>Nice looking coin but isnt strike considered at that grade level?
It seems NGC and PCGS grade differently. I think a bit too weak for 68, but a nice looking dime. >>
I'd say a 65, with a whopping 3-point grade bump for color.
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Decent, but I'd have zero interest in it at the presumed asking price.
AT activities would halt if the services stopped giving grade bumps for color that result in gazillion percent increased value.
Don't like the strike? Pffft.
<< <i>Probably the exception, but I am not a fan of oil-slick toning. >>
Me neither, but in this case I make a definite exception.
Eddited to add: This opinion is bases solely on the photos provided and may or may not change with the coin in hand.
<< <i>So for all those that said the coin was a 65 with a bump for color.....are you now saying that not only can NGC not grade but CAC can't grade it either
Actually, that's not what I'm saying. My opinion is that CAC agreed with NGC that it was a 65 with a three point bump for color. BTW, definitely deserving of the star as well.
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<< <i>AT activities would halt if the services stopped giving grade bumps for color that result in gazillion percent increased value. >>
I agree 100%, Frank.
I understant the MS for the mint state
I don't understant the 68 but then who am I the queestion NGC!!!
and CAC stickered it?? maybe that is not a tick on the cheek
2) To me, a 7 must be a virtually perfect coin. Miss Liberty's cheek, from what I see on this image, would preclude that grade, let alone an 8.
3) I've seen at least ten or twelve of MS 66 Liberty Nickels that were stickered which I didn't think deserved the sticker, but many of these coins imo were overgraded.
Don't think for a minute that just because a particular coin has been given a given grade by a TPG, or a sticker with regard to its quality for the grade, or is deemed to be "market acceptable," that you should merely accept this as gospel. A slab collector does this. As good as the experts are, they make mistakes. And liner coins could be graded differently on different days.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
Here is some photographic proof that the coin can have ticks and achieve high grades. ( I do not own these coins but held the second one in my hands and agree with the grade fully)
PCGS MS69 Full Bands
PCGS MS69 Full Bands
So basically I feel unless we actually have the coin in hand and can just the overall eye appeal and luster there is no way in determining MS68's and 69's simply from the photo.
PS I do not believe the coin in the OP has a nick on the cheek rather its just the toning pattern nor do I think it plays a vital roll....Only time will tell
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