Who is Christopher Schuck ? I just received the following
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Who is this guy? I just received this in my email and have no idea who this guy is. Anyone?
Mr. Pilitowski,
First I apologize if you have nothing to do with this. My name is Chris Schuck, and I am a former member of the PCGS forums. I am also a former seller on ebay.
As a new collector/seller, I got into some trouble with a few folks at the PCGS forums. I was purchasing ANACS problem coins, cracking them out, and selling them on ebay without mention of the problems.
Completely unethical I know, but that is what happened and I cannot take it back.
As a result, a few PCGS forum users have been passing around my information, telling everyone to avoid dealing with me, which I completely understand as well.
I have been banned from the PCGS forums, I have tried to sign up with a new name, but I keep getting banned every time, for no reason.
I am now trying to start fresh, and become a 100% ethical part-time dealer. I have opened a new website, and I hope to forge some good relationships with other dealers and collectors.
I am not asking you to give me a good word, or support me in any way, I understand I have a lot of work to do in order to make up for the past.
I am just asking that I be given a chance to post on the PCGS forums. I have a wealth of knowledge I can bring in the bust and seated areas. And I would like to contribute to making the forums a better place.
If you are one of those who seek to ban me, or if you know of anyone who is, I just ask that you give me a second chance.
I have a unique business sense, and I absolutely promise that I will become a worthwhile dealer given time.
I thank you for taking time to read this, and if you know of anyone who is involved with trying to prevent me from continuing in the business, please pass this along.
I understand the mistakes I've made, but I can only try again. I've contacted you because you made your website/email available in your signature, I have no way of contacting anyone directly using the PCGS forums.
Sincerely,
Chris Schuck
Mr. Pilitowski,
First I apologize if you have nothing to do with this. My name is Chris Schuck, and I am a former member of the PCGS forums. I am also a former seller on ebay.
As a new collector/seller, I got into some trouble with a few folks at the PCGS forums. I was purchasing ANACS problem coins, cracking them out, and selling them on ebay without mention of the problems.
Completely unethical I know, but that is what happened and I cannot take it back.
As a result, a few PCGS forum users have been passing around my information, telling everyone to avoid dealing with me, which I completely understand as well.
I have been banned from the PCGS forums, I have tried to sign up with a new name, but I keep getting banned every time, for no reason.
I am now trying to start fresh, and become a 100% ethical part-time dealer. I have opened a new website, and I hope to forge some good relationships with other dealers and collectors.
I am not asking you to give me a good word, or support me in any way, I understand I have a lot of work to do in order to make up for the past.
I am just asking that I be given a chance to post on the PCGS forums. I have a wealth of knowledge I can bring in the bust and seated areas. And I would like to contribute to making the forums a better place.
If you are one of those who seek to ban me, or if you know of anyone who is, I just ask that you give me a second chance.
I have a unique business sense, and I absolutely promise that I will become a worthwhile dealer given time.
I thank you for taking time to read this, and if you know of anyone who is involved with trying to prevent me from continuing in the business, please pass this along.
I understand the mistakes I've made, but I can only try again. I've contacted you because you made your website/email available in your signature, I have no way of contacting anyone directly using the PCGS forums.
Sincerely,
Chris Schuck
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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I don't know, but ever since I removed my email address from my profile, I've stopped receiving this type of spam.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Based on his intial business model, he does indeed have a "unique" sense for business.
roadrunner
Option 2: Call Oprah
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
I spent considerable time and effort (with some outstanding help from some excellent people here) in trying to warn others about this guy. He made a lot of money selling cr*p to unsuspecting buyers.
Bruce
He is the guy who was the subject of the " We don't need no stinkin slabs" threads.
I have received similar email from him.
He was registered here as CopperTonedCentz and LoMintage recently, and is registered on CoinZip as EarlyKeyDates, as well as a website of the same name.
I am making no opinion or endorsement, I just am stating the facts as they stand.
Call me a sucker, but I almost want to believe him this time.
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
<< <i>I don't remember his name here, but I do remember the accusation that led this person to lambast anyone who dared interrupt his business plan. He's come clean Tom. Forgive him and move on.
Option 2: Call Oprah >>
I'm not G-d so it's not in my power to forgive, nor have I been victimized by him or this type of low level thievery ( I was victimized by a much more complicated scam for a lot more money and time ).
Option 2, I don't have her telephone number but would be glad to call her is someone would pass the number along
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
He sold on Ebay as SeatedLibertyKeys or something like that.
He was run out of here for his selling practices.
I see Arizona Jack has tagged him.
Ray
It's sad in a pathetic sort of way. It seems a lot of those who purchased what they thought were problem free coins are the ones who need the public apology and to be made whole from Chris. I can forgive anyone who doesn't tread on me; real easy, but it's a lot tougher to forgive someone who victimizes and doesn't fix the problem he created.
Also, I've been victimized a lot worse, too. In big ways. I have to give the author credit. His letter is a sign of a contrite heart.
My advice to Chris is to contact those you've wronged and make it right. That's paramount to starting over.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>Do you spell his name Schuck or Schuch ? >>
Schmuck.
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
<< <i>Well Tom, it is a nice letter and I know it's out of your realm.
It's sad in a pathetic sort of way. It seems a lot of those who purchased what they thought were problem free coins are the ones who need the public apology and to be made whole from Chris. I can forgive anyone who doesn't tread on me; real easy, but it's a lot tougher to forgive someone who victimizes and doesn't fix the problem he created.
Also, I've been victimized a lot worse, too. In big ways. I have to give the author credit. His letter is a sign of a contrite heart.
My advice to Chris is to contact those you've wronged and make it right. That's paramount to starting over. >>
Whats paramount is taking responsibility for what he did. Do you see how he wrote:
"""As a new collector/seller, I got into some trouble with a few folks at the PCGS forums. I was purchasing ANACS problem coins, cracking them out, and selling them on ebay without mention of the problems.
Completely unethical I know, but that is what happened and I cannot take it back.
As a result, a few PCGS forum users have been passing around my information, telling everyone to avoid dealing with me, which I completely understand as well.
I have been banned from the PCGS forums, I have tried to sign up with a new name, but I keep getting banned every time, for no reason."""
Unethical? Nowhere did he say he ripped people off, cheated them, is dreadfully sorry and wish he could take it back, would do anything in order to make it right FOR THOSE HE CHEATED AND LIED TO.
So it's way beyond "unethical".
Now examine the rest of that short paragraph and tell me what you see. I know what I see and it's not remorse over how he treated others.
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
The proof is in the pudding. The error is in the minting process
I'm just giving perspective, not judgement. Advice, not a sentence.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Sorry, I just didn't see anything else productive to add, and couldn't hold back...
"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time... don't do it.........."
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<< <i>I keep getting banned every time, for no reason.
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lol
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<< <i>I keep getting banned every time, for no reason.
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lol >>
Check out my current listings: https://ebay.com/sch/khunt/m.html?_ipg=200&_sop=12&_rdc=1
His previous names have include "seatedlibertykeydates", "santaslilhelper" as well as others.
I spent considerable time and effort (with some outstanding help from some excellent people here) in trying to warn others about this guy. He made a lot of money selling cr*p to unsuspecting buyers.
Bruce
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It is KingOcoins aka Seated Bust Keys, aka SantasLittleHelper, aka coincollectorms70, aka SeatedLibertyKeyDates, aka CoinKing.
He is the guy who was the subject of the " We don't need no stinkin slabs" threads.
I have received similar email from him.
He was registered here as CopperTonedCentz and LoMintage recently, and is registered on CoinZip as EarlyKeyDates, as well as a website of the same name.
I am making no opinion or endorsement, I just am stating the facts as they stand.
Call me a sucker, but I almost want to believe him this time.
Leopard Coin Company.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
Early Rare Coins
Bruce
<< <i>Is this the same "dealer"?
Early Rare Coins >>
1834, that is the same person. I saw that site the other day and then realized that it is IDENTICAL in structure to the site that I helped set-up when I was with Jade Rare Coin I will not make any comments regarding the inventory on that site. Well.....maybe I will. Does that 1870 quarter look MS60 to anyone here?
Unbelievable! He's doing the EXACT SAME THING that got him ran out of here --- he's cracking coins out of problem holders and selling them at higher, problem-free grades.
Check out the 1870 quarter on his site
Now.........
Check out this 1870 quarter that was sold at Heritage two months ago for $276 in an NCS AU Details, Cleaned and Scratched holder
It is the SAME coin, except now he says it is an MS60 and is offered at $490
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Call me a sucker, but I almost want to believe him this time. >>
OK, have to do it....> SUCKER!!!!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>It is KingOcoins aka Seated Bust Keys, aka SantasLittleHelper, aka coincollectorms70, aka SeatedLibertyKeyDates, aka CoinKing. >>
He's Ron Guth, President of PCGS!
<< <i> ( I was victimized by a much more complicated scam for a lot more money and time ) >>
Ah. A gem in the midst of this thread. Are you willing to share? No problem if not, I understand completely!
I think i've read through some of this posters old threads. This was the "apology" thread, no? Of course, I defer to the decisions of the mods of this board.
I can understand why someone would want to be a contributing member of a great resource like this forum. But there are rules to follow and content to avoid.
Why would he think that members on this forum have influence over Carol, the moderators and PCGS? I thought that they call the shots and that's that.
Yea, i've read it very carefully. What an interesting choice of words.
<< <i>Unbelievable! He's doing the EXACT SAME THING that got him ran out of here --- he's cracking coins out of problem holders and selling them at higher, problem-free grades.
Check out the 1870 quarter on his site
Now.........
Check out this 1870 quarter that was sold at Heritage two months ago for $276 in an NCS AU Details, Cleaned and Scratched holder
It is the SAME coin, except now he says it is an MS60 and is offered at $490 >>
Apparently, he's changed the grade to XF-40 and knocked down the price within the last 20 minutes.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>
<< <i>Unbelievable! He's doing the EXACT SAME THING that got him ran out of here --- he's cracking coins out of problem holders and selling them at higher, problem-free grades.
Check out the 1870 quarter on his site
Now.........
Check out this 1870 quarter that was sold at Heritage two months ago for $276 in an NCS AU Details, Cleaned and Scratched holder
It is the SAME coin, except now he says it is an MS60 and is offered at $490 >>
Apparently, he's changed the grade to XF-40 and knocked down the price within the last 20 minutes. >>
Actually, I figured he would do that so I took a couple of screen captures. Should I post them??
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>Actually, I figured he would do that so I took a couple of screen captures. Should I post them?? >>
TTIWWP
This was a screen capture taken 15 minutes ago..........before he dropped the grade from MS60 to XF45 Cleaned/Scratched. Remember that it was in an NCS AU58 Cleaned/Scratched holder two months ago.
Cream rises to the top, and we know what goes to the bottom.
<< <i>Is he from Nigeria? >>
<< <i>what do you think about the 1921s half? >>
He calls it VF25.....I don't think so....!!!!
<< <i>Ok, since nobody has said it yet....this kid is a scumbag. He has deceived many people before, and will continue to do so. He wants a "fresh start"? Look at his 20 center and tell me its anywhere even close to a 58! Not to mention it has the look of being scrubbed, notice how he omits that part from his description? This is a BAD APPLE folks. He deserves no more chances to be an ethical and fair dealer in this industry, period! >>
If you look at previous threads with his other aliases (e.g. KingOfCoins), you will notice that when he gets caught, he will offer an apology and try to make things right, but he never really has ...