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eBay put up millions of fake auctions to artificially boost numbers
gamehunter
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If anyone thinks the boycott and seller exodus didn't affect eBay, read this gem of a thread:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000527568
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=2000527568
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link to post on eBay forum
Edited to throw in a link.
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
link to auctions
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
<< <i>Whoa this seller listed 10001 auctions recently and looks like NONE of them had bids.
link to auctions >>
Wow ebay must really be hurting..but if fleabay insiders really were the the phony sellers..then this would be fraud with the intent of misleading stock investors..
30 day listing only available in stores
I thought you needed some history before you could start a store
<< <i>they have all been closed, as far as I can tell
30 day listing only available in stores
I thought you needed some history before you could start a store >>
Hadn't even thought of that. On my wifes account it wouldn't let her set a buy it now or do a fixed price auction till she hit a certain number of feedback.
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
pcRush.com
which is a valid website which may have actually
had their computer start all of these
www.pcRush.com
I read the rumors of eBay posting Shill Listings and took them with a grain of salt. I didnt think they could stoop so low. I was wrong.
User ID sdc_prod_434012 has 34998 items listed. No feedback. When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id SPECTRUMSUPERSTORE member since 11 April 2007.
sdc_prod_9124_14 HAS 48391 ITEMS LISTED. 253 Feedback. When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id THENERDS, INC member since DEC 2007
sdc_prod_9074_35 HAS 21401 ITEMS LISTED. 0 feedback. When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id PCRUSH.COM ,member since 28 FEB 2008. And get this NOT A REGISTERED USER WITH OVER 20 THOUSAND LISTINGS? eBay is starting to cover this up.
sdc_prod_9452 HAS 24471 ITEMS LISTED. 75 FEEDBACK. When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id eTronics, INC member since JUL 2007
sdc_prod_301013_74 HAS 27291 ITEMS LISTED. 503 FEEDBACK. When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id THE TWISTER GROUP (EBAY DOES HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR AFTER ALL) member since OCT 2006
sdc_prod_9352_67 HAS 30782 ITEMS LISTED. FEEDBACK SCORE OF 915.
When you click on the feedback profile it shows User Id Digital Foto Club. member since MAY 2007
In summary there are over 185,000 listings for the sellers above which I could identify. One of them is not registered yet has over 20,000 auctions.
None of these can be bid on
Link
<< if fleabay insiders really were the the phony sellers..then this would be fraud with the intent of misleading stock investors.. >>
IS THERE AN ATTOTNEY IN DA HOUSE?
<< <i>I smell another Enron brewing.
I agree. I have no doubt we will also be hearing that ebay has there own shill bidders to get auction prices up on certain key items.
Do you guys believe everything you read on the Internet? eBay Forum Newgroups? YouTube? Good Lord!
Come on guys, how about something credible?
Dave
<< <i>Apologists #001
Do you guys believe everything you read on the Internet? eBay Forum Newgroups? YouTube? Good Lord!
Come on guys, how about something credible?
Dave >>
Seeing a brand new seller break the computerized rules that wont let you list auctions the format they were listed IS credible to me. I didnt watch that on youtube.... I looked up the auctions for myself.
Edited to say. I dont expect you to believe me just because I say so. But look at them for yourself and make a decision which is what I did.
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
I expect the WSJ and a few investors would be slightly interested in thousands of phoney listings.
Take care,
Dave
The should apologize and admit that the sellers won.
http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/comments/2008/3/1204379814.html
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Mystery listings are appearing on eBay that don't allow shoppers to bid or buy. The listings appear to be feeds from Shopping.com sellers. A look at the User ID sdc_prod_301013_74, for example, shows the seller has 27,076 listings - but the ones we clicked on did not have bid or buy buttons. Users found multiple User IDs with the preface "sdc" - a commonly used nickname for Shopping.com
A discussion about the listings began Friday night on eBay's Feedback board. Some posters believe it is a sign that eBay is trying to inflate its listing numbers to mask any effects of the seller boycott. Because of the dearth of data from eBay, Wall Street analysts put a lot of credence on listing numbers to gauge the company's marketplace performance. This month, everyone studied listing numbers to try and measure the impact of the seller boycott. And sellers have been prowling the site looking for any evidence of manipulation.
Update 3/1/08: eBay spokesperson Usher Lieberman responded by email on Saturday, "This was a limited test that has run its course." I appreciate the update on a weekend and, if I learn more next week, will update this post.
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Interesting "spin" from the Ebay rep, a limited "test" of software. With that they can probably get away with the stunt, though I have seen shareholder lawsuits over more innocuous things than this. The high priced Wall Street analysts are looking at the listing numbers, and Ebay knew this, so I'm sure they wish their "test" didn't get spotted. Depending on how widespread the incident is, and what is said in an official response from Ebay, this could get ugly, or be a non-event.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
This is DEFINITELY worth watching, I GUARANTEE IT!
Just DO IT!
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<< <i>This is going to be a huge story. >>
Yes, wow, I hope a lot of news organizations report this.
EBay says sellers boycott had no effect on listings
By Mark Schwanhausser
Mercury News
Article Launched: 02/26/2008 01:35:08 AM PST
With the clock ticking down Monday on an eight-day boycott, some eBay sellers have called to
extend it or stage a second protest in March. Sellers hoped the initial boycott, which ran from Feb.
18 through Monday, would send a message to the San Jose online auction house about their
anger over fee increases and rule changes announced in January.
"We definitely, numerically, we didn't feel an impact from the strike, but we certainly heard from
our sellers and are listening to them," said eBay spokesman Usher Lieberman. He declined to
disclose any numbers related to eBay's listings Monday, saying the company typically releases data
only in quarterly filings for stockholders.
Still, eBay does not intend to change the fees or policies that enraged some sellers, Lieberman said.
I'll wait till it develops a bit more.
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IF eBay is behind it all they've got some serious explaining to do.
The words "Trust" & "Safety" have NEVER applied to ebay.
Think about it. Somehow the word "Insertion" seems very appropriate.
Something just smells like a pole cat here.
<< <i>Ooooh .... Juicy stuff!
<< if fleabay insiders really were the the phony sellers..then this would be fraud with the intent of misleading stock investors.. >>
IS THERE AN ATTOTNEY IN DA HOUSE? >>
so what are us average joes going to do for a forum when all this hits the fan! It seems like you have to accept the premiums from an auction house or go to a dealer who may not be interested in what you have to sell. This sucks. We need a little competition
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<< <i>LOL since when does a "test have thousands of listings? >>
If they were stress testing their production servers I suppose it is possible. But that would n't make sense if they just did listings. A runaway testing error is always possible to. I am just glad I sold all of my eBay stock years ago.
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I never blast ebay but this last thing with the feedback and rates really did bother me. I just stopped selling and buying on ebay recently. Something inside me said, it just did not feel right so that is why I stopped. To tell you the truth, I miss ebay but I will not be back unless something changes. I have always hoped that another auction site will pop-up and give ebay competition long before this new stuff. I thought maybe, yahoo would. I hope something positive comes out of all this for all of us. Sellers and buyers,
Dan
Yes, wow, I hope a lot of news organizations report this.
I just sent the information to CNN. We will see if they run with the story, I'm sure they are going to check it out anyway.