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BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭

    Are you asking PCGS grade, NGC grade or AGC grade image
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    I went 65 for eye appeal and luster
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the coin is in an NGC holder. guess their opinion if you want, but I'd prefer yours

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    My WAG is MS64. I don't see enough rub on the leg or eagle's breast to bring it down to AU. Hard to give it more than 64 without seeing it in person. Might also be a minimum FH--can't be sure from the angle. I see the three leaves and the ear hole/slash, but can't be sure if the jaw line is complete. Overall, looks like a very nice coin with very few marks.
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    MS65 FH
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    StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Baley: Great Luster, slightly off-center strike (noticeable easily on obv), minimal contact marks, 75% full head, although overall coin strike is average although not extremely sharp (note shield).

    A very nice Choice BU coin. I'll say MS-64 with shot at MS-65, that is nearly Gem -- In my opinion image

    I'll be curious what NGC had to say... Thanks for sharing with us!

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    I'm going with a 65, but the head looks as if it has a hit on the cheek. Do you have a close up of just the head area?
    Very nice SLQ!image
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    XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    I think it's great looking, and it's kind of hard to tell from the pic, but from where I'm sitting, it gives off a sort of AU or dipped luster.
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    AU-58.Appears to have barely discernable "rub".
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-58.Appears to have barely discernable "rub".

    wjd283, please send me all of your AU58 standing liberty quarters immediately. I will pay full AU58 "ask" plus 10%. They must all very closely resemble this coin, with the same amount of discernable "rub". image

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks 65 to me.
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    Very nice, MS66FH
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    Sorry big guy,did'nt mean to step on any toes.It was up there for an option.My true guess would've been 65.No intense offended.image
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    none taken -----> image

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ooops, didn't mean to kill the thread. Anyway, thanks for your comments everyone, the grade revealed:

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    IMO, the obverse is an easy 63 with a shot at 64, nice strike with about a 75% head as Stuart pointed out. The reverse is a little weaker with a small peck below the eagle's beak and some light noise in the field behind the wing, I'm thinking that's why they 62'd it. I really like the light golden color of this coin and of course really like the value at MS62+ money, think the coin has positive eye appeal and will look great in my type set. And now, tap tap maxwell silver hammer...

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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55, and no I'm not selling you mine.
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    Hey! I an the only one who got t rightimage
      can I keep this one like in the dime thread?
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      So you're the one who said 62, huh darktone? You were saying that based not on the pictures of the coin, but on on your knowledge of my search for "value" graded coins, I guess!

      I was mighty gratified to see MS 65 received the most votes, then MS 64, then MS66!

      makes me feel good about paying a premium for a "PQ" MS62 coin!

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      MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
      They were hard on this coin. Its really a very nice MS 63, that's my vote, even after I read the "true" grade.
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      darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
      Baley the thing that actually made me say MS62 is what appears to be hairlines on the reverse above America and in the right field. image
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      You are right, there are 4 marks above AM. Just to the left of the eagle is also a problem area.

      Will post better pics once I get the coin out of the holder. image

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      I agree that this coin is undergraded, I thought it looked MS65 to me. Nice coin Baley!
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Today's the day! This slab is getting cracked this afternoon, it's Crackout Saturday!

      (at least this morning, tonight is for Romance image )

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      jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Baley,

      I agree way too nice for 62, Id buy that coin for super strong 62 money all day every day. I was leaning toward 64 at NGC and 63 at PCGS. Nice head detail, although correct in not being designated a FH.
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      jomjom Posts: 3,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
      It's a 62 because either:

      1) It was a market graded AU58

      or

      2) There are hairlines or something you can't see in the picture.

      jom
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

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      jomjom Posts: 3,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Heh. The sledgehammer effect! image

      jom
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      MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
      Nice crack out job, mine sure don't look that neat. What method do you use ? Vice, band saw, hammer and screwdriver ?

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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      actually, the vice worked beautifully on this one.

      now lets have a look at the closeups

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      I think it's those pecks in the field around the eagle's beak and tail that did it, plus a light partial print behind him.

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      MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
      I changed my original opinion, its got a real shot at a 64. Nice coin !image
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      ah, there we go:

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      lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
      'Bout time somebody did a "guess the grade" thread in poll format.

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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      yeah, how about that "normal distribution", aka "bell curve"!

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      lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Perfect bell curve. And it's nice to see a "guess the grade" thread where folks have a chance to vote anonymously, and can't see how everyone else voted until after their own vote is polled.


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      TrimeTrime Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭
      Nice coin and nice buy. After close ups I agree that a 64 seems like a real possibility. The strike is soft is this typical for this year?
      Trime
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Is the strike soft? I thought it looked average to average plus. I don't know these by date, maybe someone more expert in the series can comment.

      while we're at it, here's what I took out of the T2 hole to make room for the '28, anyone want to hazard a grade on this one?

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      It really didn't look right with all that toning, next to the white and lightly toned companions.

      And NO, it's not for sale, don't you know it's against the rules to post coins on here that are available? image

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      Baley,

      I remember when you first posted pics of your type set that the toned SLQ was very popular. However the '28 looks perfect next to the other quarters. Beautiful page.
      Bill
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      ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,425 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Baley,

      The problem with the image of the 28P is that you really can't tell whether the minor reverse contact marks and hairlines which you noted "jump out" at the viewer when he actually sees the coin. In a 62 grade, I am inclined to believe they do, otherwise, I feel NGC is being too hard on the coin. With the lighting of the image, they appear to be rather trivial and not worth downgrading the coin for them.

      Then again, I have a Capped Bust Qtr. in a 4 holder that has a long thin scratch in the rt. obverse field that you only notice if you tilted the coin at a specific angle. W/o the scratch, it would be in a 5 holder & worth over 2x its present value.

      I prefer the color and eye appeal of the 30P to the 28P, however, I prefer the strike and surfaces of the 28P.
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      Nice coin Baley! Get crackin' with the Dremel!!
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Get crackin' with the Dremel!!

      it's already outtta there, techeff.

      the Bench Vice is my preferred method of freeing coins from their plastic shells image

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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      thanks! next in the crosshairs is a fairly well-matched Barber quarter. Anybody got a recently "graded" MS62 for sale?

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      JadeRareCoinJadeRareCoin Posts: 2,768

      Before I will guess the grade on your coin, I would like to know who submitted it; you or a major dealer?

      I voted anyway. I called it an MS-64 before I saw the grade in your post. Looks like a nice coin.
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      StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Baley: The toning on your 1930 SLQ is absolutely beautiful!! image

      I just got my long-time raw type SLQ back from PCGS and am very pleased that the 1918-S graded MS-64 FH !!

      Stuart

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      BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Real grade AU=58, near full head This coin has a rub down the leg and is not a full Mint State piece.

      Market price grade MS-62 (It's fair to charge low end MS money for this coin because of the eye appeal.)

      "Leading Company" Slab Grade MS-64

      "Third World Slab Company Grade" MS-66, Full Head.
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      I like Standing Liberty Quarters.........
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      nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,387 ✭✭✭
      Grading by pic sure ain't easy...
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      rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
      63
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      BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
      Real grade AU=58, near full head This coin has a rub down the leg and is not a full Mint State piece.
      Market price grade MS-62 (It's fair to charge low end MS money for this coin because of the eye appeal.)
      "Leading Company" Slab Grade MS-64
      "Third World Slab Company Grade" MS-66, Full Head.

      BillJones, interesting analysis and I cannot say I disagree with you;
      also, could you please direct me to the crusty "old time" technical graders who will sell me coins like this for AU58 prices image

      Grading by pic sure ain't easy...

      No, nwcs, it's not, is it?

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      image I thought it was a MS64
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