2009 LP2 DDR Attributions w/ #'s & PICS

AskRaq · June 8, 2009 6:36AM

I have tried to collect the known DDR's & their associated numbers below - if I'm missing any, please add them!!

coppercoins.com -

2009P-1DR-002

2009P-1DR-003

2009P-1DR-004

doubleddie.com - Wexler

2009-1c-FY-WDDR-001

2009-1c-FY-WDDR-002

2009-1c-FY-WDDR-003

2009-1c-FY-WDDR-004

- Crawford

2009-1c-FY-CDDR-001

2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002

2009-1c-FY-CDDR-003

Smittys · June 8, 2009 6:45AM

Too bad the numbers from each don't match....

19Lyds · June 8, 2009 6:54AM

This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these.

08HALA20 · June 8, 2009 7:07AM

I agree but the "double thumb" and the "Sixth finger" are pretty cool.

The"Sixth Finger" one is pretty dramatic and my favorite.

I also think the die clash (under chin) on the obverse is pretty cool too but not too much is being said about that one.

I am going to open another 4/30 box tonight, my original order from the mint that I found some of the "Sixth Finger" in.

I sold 3 of these boxes on ebay before learning about the errors.

Joe

jessewvu · June 8, 2009 7:20AM

I found this one that I haven't seen pictures of yet.

notlogical · June 8, 2009 8:37AM

I just figured out why no one wants to trade their "P" rolls for my "D" rolls.

SUMORADA · June 8, 2009 8:47AM

Raq

I sent one of these to John Wexler the other day, he should have received it today........the ones I have are the only ones that I have seen so far.....

Cam40 · June 8, 2009 8:53AM

how can there be so many different variations of this doubling.
doesnt the philly mint have anyone on staff in the quality control department?

also,one wonders, which one or ones are the valuable/rarer ones?

stinkinlincoln · June 8, 2009 8:57AM

Not hard to see why so many variations, its near the center. If its out of whack just abit, something is going to happen.

SUMORADA · June 8, 2009 9:19AM

also,one wonders, which one or ones are the valuable/rarer ones?

So far my guess is the WDDR-001 (CDDR-002)........the sixth finger.....

SUMORADA · June 8, 2009 10:18PM

I just received an email from John Wexler, this one is new and is now listed as 2009 1c FY WDDR-008 (doubled thumb).

AskRaq · June 9, 2009 2:37AM

<< I just received an email from John Wexler, this one is new and is now listed as 2009 1c FY WDDR-008 (doubled thumb).

>>

Sooooo..... I wonder what #005-#007 are??

AskRaq · June 9, 2009 2:43AM

<< 
Sooooo..... I wonder what #005-#007 are?? >>

Just checked my email.... I now know what #006 is!!!!

Received your coin safe and sound. I have completed my examination with the following results:

(1) 2009 1c Formative Years DDR?: New listing in my "C" registry files now officially assigned as 2009 1c FY CDDR-006.

I will be taking photos shortly of your coin. It appears the extra remnants that we see is most likely doubling of the index finger with a shift to the north. However, with that said, when I get the photos back I can do detailed overlays to confirm if it is indeed the remnants of an index finger or if remnants of the thumb.

Congratulations on the new listing! I will be shipping your coins back to you either tomorrow or the next day. Thank you for allowing me to examine and add to my "C" registry files. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

All the Best,
Billy G. Crawford

MY POOR PICS: (same as: 2009P-1DR-003 from coppercoins.com)

tahoe98 · June 9, 2009 2:51AM

............WOW! that will keep you busy! what about the loggies? any extra logs or missing chimney bricks or crooked cabin door or..................................................?

InternetJunky · June 9, 2009 3:00AM

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others...

Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002.

JungleFever · June 9, 2009 3:12AM

<< 

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory! A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others... Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002. >>

It is hard to say at this point. I've gone through 200 coins, and found one. OTOH, they haven't been released to the general public in bank rolls either. If you are doing this for
a quick buck, I'd make it quick, cuz once the banks release hundreds of millions, watch out!!

The Wisconsins were from the D mint, these appear to be all from the P mint......meaning there are very few to search, but soon a flood of them.

eyoung429 · June 9, 2009 3:36AM

Has there been a difference on the 2009-1c-FY-WDDR-002 and the 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-001 where there hasn't been the gouge or break on the book pages and still had the doubling on the hand?

sanitarium1inmate · June 9, 2009 4:28AM

What's puzzling me is that there are so many people claiming that the DDR-001 and DDR-002 are of the THUMB when they are actually of the index finger being doubled. The DDR-003 has been confirmed as the THUMB and not the index finger. Do any of you think it matters which finger it is that is doubled or do you just see that a coin has an extra finger and go with it. Personally I think the #2 and the #3 are going to be the spotlight coins in these.

pitboss · June 9, 2009 4:37AM

<< 

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others...

Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002. >>

You are losing track of how many lincoln penny collectors are out there and how many people are searching these rolls. We are a very small group of people that even know about these coins at this point. There is not going to be, relatively speaking, that many coins with the error found. We are very fortunate , here on the board, to have one of our members find this before it became general knowledge and are able to get as many as we are.

HOLD ON TO THEM FOR A WHILE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC AND SELL AT THIS POINT!!! IF YOU MUST LIST. PRICE HIGH!!!!

gmherps13 · June 9, 2009 4:43AM

I just found "several", through-out 5 boxes...18 iffy's! Totally pumped!!!!

sanitarium1inmate · June 9, 2009 4:44AM

<< 

<< 

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others...

Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002. >>

You are losing track of how many lincoln penny collectors are out there and how many people are searching these rolls. We are a very small group of people that even know about these coins at this point. There is not going to be, relatively speaking, that many coins with the error found. We are very fortunate , here on the board, to have one of our members find this before it became general knowledge and are able to get as many as we are.

HOLD ON TO THEM FOR A WHILE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC AND SELL AT THIS POINT!!! IF YOU MUST LIST. PRICE HIGH!!!! >>

This gives us members here the upper hand in cherrypicking the good dated boxes as you can see from us talking we here know the dates to get and not that many people outside of here have that information yet. When they do then it will only help that have stocked up.

pitboss · June 9, 2009 5:09AM

It's getting harder to find good rolls as you know. I have better than 80 on the way. but am starting to pay way higher prices for them. I will have the goodies in the end though.

19Lyds · June 9, 2009 6:45AM

<< 

<< 

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others...

Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002. >>

You are losing track of how many lincoln penny collectors are out there and how many people are searching these rolls. We are a very small group of people that even know about these coins at this point. There is not going to be, relatively speaking, that many coins with the error found. We are very fortunate , here on the board, to have one of our members find this before it became general knowledge and are able to get as many as we are.

HOLD ON TO THEM FOR A WHILE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC AND SELL AT THIS POINT!!! IF YOU MUST LIST. PRICE HIGH!!!! >>

Hmmm. Mark my words friend, these will flame out regardless of how many Lincoln collectors there are out there. I expect that the serious Lincoln collectors (those that pay big bucks) will only purchase the highest of grades. These may go for quite a bit but even those prices will not stick since there is nothing really unique occuring here, especially with so many variations.

My advice is if you can sell them for a premium, then do so or that premium will dwindle to the point that it won't be economically feasible to sell hem unless they are in the MS66-MS68 range.

Has anybody encountered any 2009-D DDR's yet? Those could be a money maker.

MMR · June 9, 2009 7:23AM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< This is starting to look like Minnesota Extra Tree State Quarter and Ocean in View Nickel territory!

A single DDR would have been cool but when you start getting up into the 10 and 20 varieties, folks lose interest pretty quickly and the popularities start dropping. Hopefully, nobody is shelling out big bucks for one of these. >>

I'm with you on this one. The amount of DD's just found by members of CU is enough for me to loose interest. Imagine how many hundreds of these are being found by others...

Although, to make a positive statement towards the thread, if I had to choose one I liked the most it would be 2009-1c-FY-CDDR-002. >>

You are losing track of how many lincoln penny collectors are out there and how many people are searching these rolls. We are a very small group of people that even know about these coins at this point. There is not going to be, relatively speaking, that many coins with the error found. We are very fortunate , here on the board, to have one of our members find this before it became general knowledge and are able to get as many as we are.

HOLD ON TO THEM FOR A WHILE YET !!!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T PANIC AND SELL AT THIS POINT!!! IF YOU MUST LIST. PRICE HIGH!!!! >>

Hmmm. Mark my words friend, these will flame out regardless of how many Lincoln collectors there are out there. I expect that the serious Lincoln collectors (those that pay big bucks) will only purchase the highest of grades. These may go for quite a bit but even those prices will not stick since there is nothing really unique occuring here, especially with so many variations.

My advice is if you can sell them for a premium, then do so or that premium will dwindle to the point that it won't be economically feasible to sell hem unless they are in the MS66-MS68 range.

Has anybody encountered any 2009-D DDR's yet? Those could be a money maker. >>

Another thing to keep in mind is that these come from a very concentrated sample of rolls and dates that were ordered directly from the mint. What remains to be seen is whether or not these materialize in the normal business strikes that make their way to the banks. If this is an isolated run, then in comparison to the total mintage for this issue, they may indeed be rare. I am thinking particularly about the DDR-2 6 finger Abes. Just my thoughts...

19Lyds · June 9, 2009 9:06AM

Here's an interesting one:

jessewvu · June 9, 2009 9:29AM

<< Here's an interesting one:

>>

Cool, but we need dates of your boxes

sanitarium1inmate · June 9, 2009 9:48AM

<< 

<< Here's an interesting one:

>>

Cool, but we need dates of your boxes

>>

And is that a NEW D mint find? or another P mint find?

19Lyds · June 9, 2009 10:28AM

P Mint.

5/5/09 10:49

But, I dont think it matters a whole lot to be totally honest.

I found 1 - 1DR-002, 34 - 1DR-003, 3 - 1DR-004 and this one all in 5/5/09 boxes.

pf70collector · June 9, 2009 10:34PM

So any opinions as to how many dies prodcued these DDRs? Was it just one die and if so what is the maximum minted from that die?

DieVarieties · June 10, 2009 5:13AM

I'm pleased to announce the free Die Variety News (DVN) Supplement Issue #3 is uploaded and now available for viewing at your leisure. The DVN home page is: http://www.dvnmagazine.com/

This DVN Supplement Issue #3 continues with the Lincoln cent Formative Years doubled dies that have recently been added to my "C" registry files since publication of Supplement Issue #2.

Couple of nice DDRs and DDOs are illustrated with detailed die marker photos for accurate identification. One of the reverse varieties is also mated with a DDO making for a nice DDO + DDR combination to be on the hunt for!

I sincerely hope you enjoy this special DVN Supplement Issue #3 and as always ... Good Luck in your searching endeavors.

As more Formative Years varieties come in I will be working on future supplements to keep you abreast of the latest news.

Enjoy ...

All the Best,
Billy (dvn)

19Lyds · June 10, 2009 5:17AM

<< So any opinions as to how many dies prodcued these DDRs? Was it just one die and if so what is the maximum minted from that die? >>

As many dies as there are DDR's friend! I could be wrong but each die can produce upwards of a million coins. Whether or not all million make it to market is another story all together.

19Lyds · June 10, 2009 5:18AM

Thanks Billy! I've been waiting for this supplement!

Man · June 10, 2009 5:44AM

Great supplement, I have the 2 other thanks Billy.

gmherps13 · June 10, 2009 10:45AM

<< I'm pleased to announce the free Die Variety News (DVN) Supplement Issue #3 is uploaded and now available for viewing at your leisure. The DVN home page is: http://www.dvnmagazine.com/

This DVN Supplement Issue #3 continues with the Lincoln cent Formative Years doubled dies that have recently been added to my "C" registry files since publication of Supplement Issue #2.

Couple of nice DDRs and DDOs are illustrated with detailed die marker photos for accurate identification. One of the reverse varieties is also mated with a DDO making for a nice DDO + DDR combination to be on the hunt for!

I sincerely hope you enjoy this special DVN Supplement Issue #3 and as always ... Good Luck in your searching endeavors.

As more Formative Years varieties come in I will be working on future supplements to keep you abreast of the latest news.

Enjoy ...

All the Best,
Billy (dvn)

>>

great issue! thank you for it

SUMORADA · June 10, 2009 11:14AM

Thanks Billy, I was there a couple times today....great info and much appreciated....

DieVarieties · June 10, 2009 10:37PM

Thanks everybody.

A possible Formative Years very dramatic (bordering on major type) doubled die reverse is coming in to me for examination. I hope to have the coin in hand for examination and confirmation shortly.

If this FY coin turns out to be the "real deal" then I will be having to do a quick Die Variety News (DVN) Supplement Issue #4.

Stay tuned ...

Billy (dvn)

younique · June 11, 2009 12:20PM

Strange one & please don't laugh. Pics through scope.

Looks like the tip of the right index finger & the book binder flew through the lettering in ONE.

CoinMaster1229 · June 11, 2009 12:57PM

<< Strange one & please don't laugh. Pics through scope.

Looks like the tip of the right index finger & the book binder flew through the lettering in ONE. >>

Interesting ?

AskRaq · June 11, 2009 4:05PM

Younique....

Very interesting anomaly... Gouged die? Don't know....

Almost looks like the axe handle.... but with nothing else around it in the fields it couldn't be??

younique · June 11, 2009 10:05PM

There is also some residue to the right of the T.

Any ideas?

Saam · June 13, 2009 1:15AM

Has anybody else noticed the number 2 and the first zero in the date on the obverse of coins with the DDR02 and DDR03 are depressed into the coin more than it should be? Every DDR02 and DDR03 I have found has this distortion. The only other error I have found is the "lighting strike" die crack on the reverse that extends down in front of Abe's face but the 2 and 0 on the obverse of those coins is normal. I will try and post a picture soon.

TwoSides2aCoin · June 13, 2009 1:36AM

So, what will be more valueable next year ?

One of each variety or an unopened box that says LP2 ? Just curious

tmcsr69 · June 13, 2009 10:02AM

So if I read this thread correctly, we are up to eight varities at this point. Is that correct?

younique · June 13, 2009 11:00AM

There are 10 already & more to come!

Batman23 · June 14, 2009 5:00PM

I think that this is the DDR04?

TwoSides2aCoin · June 14, 2009 5:03PM

I hope Mr Potter finished counting trees. He's gonna have his "hands full" fingering this one out.

Saam · June 15, 2009 1:09PM

Where can I find pictures of all DDR's found on this coin? I found some that have a small dot on the top edge of the book Abe is holding that could be the tip of a thumb or finger. The same reverse shows a die crack from the end of the log to the rim and the letter "C" in the word cent is distorted about midway down.

mkman123 · June 15, 2009 1:19PM

I was hoping to see double dieing like the 1955! These are too small!

eyoung429 · June 15, 2009 1:27PM

So far the count is at 16 variants for the LP2.

Die break from rim to device
ddo for the jacket under the chin
10 ddr's (jury is still out if there are 2 additional ones ... regarding the boots)
die break obv from date to rim = no ddr or ddo
die break/chip book pages - on left facing pages
1 with die break across book pages top NO ddr/ddo I asked this question and haven't received an answer yet....on a Denver coin....waiting to have it inhand.

1 cracked skull obv...Denver coin.waiting on this one to arrive.

did I miss any??

AskRaq · June 16, 2009 3:09AM

<< So far the count is at 16 variants for the LP2.

Die break from rim to device
ddo for the jacket under the chin
10 ddr's (jury is still out if there are 2 additional ones ... regarding the boots)
die break obv from date to rim = no ddr or ddo
die break/chip book pages - on left facing pages
1 with die break across book pages top NO ddr/ddo I asked this question and haven't received an answer yet....on a Denver coin....waiting to have it inhand.

1 cracked skull obv...Denver coin.waiting on this one to arrive.

did I miss any?? >>

There are two varieties that are mated DDO/DDR's:

2009 1c FY CDDO-002 + CDDR-006 is one of them (that's mine) listed in Billy Crawford's Die Variety News - Supplement #3

sanitarium1inmate · June 16, 2009 4:08AM

<< So far the count is at 16 variants for the LP2.

Die break from rim to device
ddo for the jacket under the chin
10 ddr's (jury is still out if there are 2 additional ones ... regarding the boots)
die break obv from date to rim = no ddr or ddo
die break/chip book pages - on left facing pages
1 with die break across book pages top NO ddr/ddo I asked this question and haven't received an answer yet....on a Denver coin....waiting to have it inhand.

1 cracked skull obv...Denver coin.waiting on this one to arrive.

did I miss any?? >>

I thought the jacket under his chin on the obv was a die clash. You have it as a DDO, where did you hear that it was a DDO?

2009 LP2 DDR Attributions w/ #'s & PICS

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