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Not all gold Kennedys certified at ANA convention sold there
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Coin World Online is reporting that approx. 2,103 gold Kennedys were certified at the ANA Convention by PCGS, NGC and ANACS, but only approx. 1,500 coins were sold there. THe rest were purchased at other Mint facilities and transported to the convention for slabbing.
Question: does it matter?
Question: does it matter?
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If I cared about the ANA label, I would say it cheapens the label to have coins shipped in.
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<< <i>We knew that in the kennedy threads you avoided
If I cared about the ANA label, I would say it cheapens the label to have coins shipped in. >>
the label is only worth 3 cents to begin with how much cheapening can it tolerate ?
<< <i>Could any of these also have been regrades in search of a 70? >>
Yes
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Question: does it matter?
Of course it matters. More coins means more profits.
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Right back into somebodies face such as certain self serving PCGS Authorized Coin Dealers GAMING the System.
What the hell are those labels worth now??
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<< <i>The question is : " Does it matter ? " I do not know. But I will find out when the 2015 Red Book comes out. If not then, maybe in the 2016 edition. >>
try 2017 the 2015 red book came out last year
<< <i>Coin World Online is reporting that approx. 2,103 gold Kennedys were certified at the ANA Convention by PCGS, NGC and ANACS, but only approx. 1,500 coins were sold there. THe rest were purchased at other Mint facilities and transported to the convention for slabbing.
Question: does it matter?
Of course it matters. More coins means more profits. >>
Just another way the Mint, PcGS, NGC ,ANA Show threw money towards big money dealers and SHow table dealers..
Before the Show dealer friend was unhappy with the small Gold kennedy limit..only later to sing praise on the Show results and , how things were not really bad ,with the line gold Kennedy campouts and people milling around the bourse .... this after bagging his biggest coin show profit ever.. with the help of a lot of gold kennedys
In other words, if somebody bought a coin on the first day and submitted it and then had another coin brought in from a different outlet, could the receipt be used again on a subsequent day to submit a coin as a show coin?
<< <i>Someone also told me (but I have not checked) that ngc had more first day chicago coins graded than what was to be expected from a max distribution of just 500 coins. Can someone confirm how many ngc first day Chicago coins show in their pop from the max of 500 that were distributed in Chicago by the mint. Wondercoin >>
Trying to shift some blame here Mulch?
If I recall correctly, it wasn't NGC Authorized Dealers that hired actors to invade the different venues in an attempt to make folks think that these coins were hugely popular.
Post your question ATS.
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<< <i>The question is : " Does it matter ? " I do not know. But I will find out when the 2015 Red Book comes out. If not then, maybe in the 2016 edition. >>
try 2017 the 2015 red book came out last year >>
No. The 2015 Red Book was not released in 2013, nor has the 2016 Red Book already been released.
The 2016 Red Book comes out next spring with the Kennedy information.
<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels?
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<< <i>When a coin was submitted to NGC with a show receipt from the Mint sales booth, was the receipt marked in any way to show that that coin had already been submitted?
In other words, if somebody bought a coin on the first day and submitted it and then had another coin brought in from a different outlet, could the receipt be used again on a subsequent day to submit a coin as a show coin? >>
NGC "postmarked" all receipts so they could only be used once.
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<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels? >>
This one? LINK
Better act fast as a 33% discount is in effect. Guess they didn't get the asking price the first time they ran this. PF69 no less.
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<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels? >>
This one? LINK
Better act fast as a 33% discount is in effect. Guess they didn't get the asking price the first time they ran this. >>
Yeah and I hope the greedy turd chokes on em too!
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That would assume PCGS was to blame. And when you "assume", you know what happens!!
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<< <i>Someone also told me (but I have not checked) that ngc had more first day chicago coins graded than what was to be expected from a max distribution of just 500 coins. Can someone confirm how many ngc first day Chicago coins show in their pop from the max of 500 that were distributed in Chicago by the mint. Wondercoin >>
Trying to shift some blame here Mulch?
If I recall correctly, it wasn't NGC Authorized Dealers that hired actors to invade the different venues in an attempt to make folks think that these coins were hugely popular.
Post you question ATS. >>
Hey if you're still buying that Hiring actors (bull ship) to create a stir then I have a Bridge for sale...Good Grief...
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<< <i>Someone also told me (but I have not checked) that ngc had more first day chicago coins graded than what was to be expected from a max distribution of just 500 coins. Can someone confirm how many ngc first day Chicago coins show in their pop from the max of 500 that were distributed in Chicago by the mint. Wondercoin >>
Trying to shift some blame here Mulch?
If I recall correctly, it wasn't NGC Authorized Dealers that hired actors to invade the different venues in an attempt to make folks think that these coins were hugely popular.
Post you question ATS. >>
Hey if you're still buying that Hiring actors (bull ship) to create a stir then I have a Bridge for sale...Good Grief... >>
So that news report from the Denver mint was concocted then?
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<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels? >>
This one? LINK
Better act fast as a 33% discount is in effect. Guess they didn't get the asking price the first time they ran this. PF69 no less. >>
When I checked last week .. silvertowne had over 25 gold Kennedys on the bay .. looks they aren't selling fast
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<< <i>Someone also told me (but I have not checked) that ngc had more first day chicago coins graded than what was to be expected from a max distribution of just 500 coins. Can someone confirm how many ngc first day Chicago coins show in their pop from the max of 500 that were distributed in Chicago by the mint. Wondercoin >>
Trying to shift some blame here Mulch?
If I recall correctly, it wasn't NGC Authorized Dealers that hired actors to invade the different venues in an attempt to make folks think that these coins were hugely popular.
Post you question ATS. >>
Hey if you're still buying that Hiring actors (bull ship) to create a stir then I have a Bridge for sale...Good Grief... >>
So that news report from the Denver mint was concocted then? >>
They were hired to buy the coins. Whatever ridiculous premise that was used to lure them there is irrelevant.
The gold kennedys should follow same
<< <i>"Trying to shift some blame"
That would assume PCGS was to blame. And when you "assume", you know what happens!!
Wondercoin >>
I have no doubts about what happened via nationally published reports of two coin dealers hiring actors to "act" excited about the coin and bus loads of folks being hired to stand in line for a couple of dealers who in turn sold some poor sap the 1st sold coin for $100,000 and it wasn't an NGC slabbed coin.
That's what happened.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Coin World Online is reporting that approx. 2,103 gold Kennedys were certified at the ANA Convention by PCGS, NGC and ANACS, but only approx. 1,500 coins were sold there. THe rest were purchased at other Mint facilities and transported to the convention for slabbing.
Question: does it matter? >>
Not to me because I am interested in the coin, not the certification.
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<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels? >>
This one? LINK
Better act fast as a 33% discount is in effect. Guess they didn't get the asking price the first time they ran this. >>
Yeah and I hope the greedy turd chokes on em too! >>
Yea, but it has been marked down from $14,950 to $9,999.95 !!!!!
How can you call him "a greedy turd" when he is offering discounts like that?
For what it's worth a little sign popped up when I clicked on the eBay site that said "One person looking per hour." That does not sound like a lot of foot traffic for a "hot item."
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<< <i>I thought the NGC ones require the mint receipt from the ANA show. Only PCGS did not require that. >>
Did I see sets of 4 NGC graded coins that had Chicago, Denver, Philly and Washington, DC on the labels? >>
This one? LINK
Better act fast as a 33% discount is in effect. Guess they didn't get the asking price the first time they ran this. >>
Yeah and I hope the greedy turd chokes on em too! >>
Yea, but it has been marked down from $14,950 to $9,999.95 !!!!!
How can you call him "a greedy turd" when he is offering discounts like that?
For what it's worth a little sign popped up when I clicked on the eBay site that said "One person looking per hour." That does not sound like a lot of foot traffic for a "hot item." >>
One person was me and one was you. I wonder what he has in them?
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Of course it matters!
This is one of the most important numismatic issues in at least the past 1000 years. The future of numismatics depends on it.
Right now, as I am writing this, I suspect dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of collectors are in the process of dumping their classic coins so they can buy gold Kennedys in the special holders used at the ANA convention.
The coins that were transported from other locations need a special designation of their own.
<< <i>Does it matter?
Of course it matters!
This is one of the most important numismatic issues in at least the past 1000 years. The future of numismatics depends on it.
Right now, as I am writing this, I suspect dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of collectors are in the process of dumping their classic coins so they can buy gold Kennedys in the special holders used at the ANA convention.
The coins that were transported from other locations need a special designation of their own.
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How aboot Fools Gold Kennedys?
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How about a little teabag symbol?
<< <i>"Trying to shift some blame"
That would assume PCGS was to blame. And when you "assume", you know what happens!!
Wondercoin >>