1885 O Morgan Dollar PCGS MS63 Doily Rattler

mnmcoin · July 21, 2016 7:36AM

I came across the above coin in the shop and upon searching online I was not able to find any of the Doily label coins in a rattler holder.

Anybody come across one of these?

Thanks

Morris
All Valley Coin & Jewelry

ps, I'll try and do a picture if I can figure that out

cmerlo1 · July 21, 2016 7:41AM

I had a Morgan in a doily. It looked like the slab was simply a rattler with a plastic frame around it (I don't know the PCGS slab version for this). Maybe what you have is one of those without the frame.

blu62vette · July 21, 2016 7:51AM

Yep, likely broken out ring.

DRUNNER · July 21, 2016 10:07AM

From the discussion you gave, I concur (obviously) with my colleagues above . . . .'a Doily missing the outer ring'.

In 1989, in response to a continued potential (with one perpetrator already arrested) counterfeiting threat to the 'Rattler' holder (1.0), PCGS decided on a two-fold approach to defeating counterfeiting. First, the label would be made similar to the printing on US currency . . . . detailed, flowery, ornate. I.e. -- harder to counterfeit. The debut? "The Doily" insert.

The second approach? Place a sonically sealed outer ring completely around the Rattler -- sealing the coin . . . AND the holder!

But around any bourse floor from 1989=2000 . . . . . while handled, displayed, moved . . . MANY a Doily went to its eternal destruction on a concrete assembly hall floor at Joe Schmuck's 13th Annual Screen Door Memorial Coin Show & Taxidermy Convention. Drop an early 2-Piece holder . . . . (Doily, 2.0, 2.5, 3.5) that sono*****un was ganna blow up on a concrete floor like

Hence . . . . . . the apparent "Doily" without the critical outer ring.

I just echo the expertise above . . . . . they also have the answer.

Drunner

(Doily Schmuck)

asheland · July 22, 2016 12:21AM

I love Doilys

ricko · July 22, 2016 12:51AM

Doilies for boys and goilies.....

I know.... lame. Cheers, RickO

BAJJERFAN · July 22, 2016 1:17AM

A lot of dealers supposedly broke off the outer ring in order to get the slabs to fit into the old rattler boxes.

LanceNewmanOCC · July 22, 2016 3:39AM

Originally posted by: DRUNNER

Drunner

(Doily Schmuck)

and apparently a good storyteller.

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keets · July 22, 2016 9:03PM

Morris, what a blast from the past!!!! hadn't heard from or thought about you for years, nice to see you're still around and active. Geez, this makes two members from the recent past in one week after MM posted in a few threads. also, that Thor guy brings up a couple of banned members so what's next??

MadMarty · July 25, 2016 5:10AM

Hi Keets!!!

oih82w8 · July 25, 2016 7:26AM

Fully intact doilies may be the next rare holder.

1885 O Morgan Dollar PCGS MS63 Doily Rattler

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