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Why is the 1963-D penny so difficult in high grade?

Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
Went through 300 coins from unopened rolls from a bank in San Francisco this weekend. Most were spotted. Those which were not often had numerous small scratches in the fields are a terribly strike. Found one which might be a 65 on a lucky day...although at first glance they didn't look that bad.

Why is this particular issue so tough?

Dennis

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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I mentioned this particular coin the better part of 10 years ago over on the Registry Forum as possibly the toughest Lincoln Cent to locate in true MS67RD grade going back to 1931 in the series or even earlier! It looks like nothing has changed in the past 10 years.

    I made a small "hoard" of MS66RD coins from a single roll nearly a decade ago but the well has run dry since then. Tough coin in nice quality 66RD and nearly impossible in solid MS67RD grade!

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  • WhitWhit Posts: 349 ✭✭✭
    Good morning, all: I write not so much to provide an answer, but to sympathize. So many Lincolns from '46 to 64 are difficult in true 67, the 54P, 55P to name two. The 35-S is also hard to find spot-free with booming luster (unlike the 38-42P issues, for examples). Even the rare examples of MS67s I have seen, mostly in NGC holders, disappoint.

    I once read that the quality of the strips from which planchets were punched, as well as the manner of their storage, can affect a coin's propensity to spot or discolor, but I don't know if that's true. As for scratches and other marks, I don't know what else the answer could be except that in later years, the machinery used to process a coin from strike to shipment was abusive, especially at the Philly mint. I'd love to hear an authoritative answer to the OP's question.

    Whit
    Whit
  • cupronikcupronik Posts: 773 ✭✭✭
    Since BU rolls are so cheap and MS66RD singles bring $600/+ I buy almost every BU roll I find. I go through these rolls and pull out the "best" coins (relatively.) Many times all 50 coins are terrible. Back in 2003 or so I slabbed 6-63D's from one roll in MS66RD, so I also think the gems come from from a particular run of coins. Back in 2007 I tried a bulk submission of 100 63-D cents (minimum grade = MS66RD) and PCGS only slabbed THREE coins. Later I sent a different lot of 150 '63D's and PCGS graded ZERO(!), 0/150???
    I wasn't trying to waste my time in either case.

    BTW, I sent 100 of these bulk rejects to NGC and they slabbed 58 coins in MS66RD.

    I haven't "made" this coin in MS66RD in the past five years. Without a doubt, the 63-D is by far the toughest Lincoln Memorial Cent in MS66RD and better.

    Jaime Hernandez even comments on this issue on Coin Facts. He went through three bags w/o finding a single gem. He, too, made several 66Rd's from a single roll.

    (Though nowhere as rare, another Linc Memorial cent I like in MS66 and better is the 1974-S.)
  • Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    I'll take a picture of what I thought was the best of the 6 rolls I went through when I get home this afternoon and see what you guys think. I'll have to go through them all again to see if I missed any (doubt it) but it might be interesting to illustrate this thread a bit.

    Dennis
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, you guys have gone through great efforts to find these. Kudos to you and good luck in the future. I'm not a cent guy but recognize effort and dedication!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    Q. David Bowers, in his Guide Book of Lincoln Cents, writes this about the 1963-D:





    Common in all grades, although coins with good eye appeal are in the minority. Sharpness of strike
    varies: perhaps most of the inferior strikes came from poorly prepared planchets (per David W. Lange).
    It is to be remembered that the obverse hub dies, slowly but surely over the decades, lost detail,
    with the result that a cent of 1963, or any other year of this era, will not hold a candle in detail to a
    cent of 1916 (when details were sharpened). A "good" strike in the modern era is one that, the hub
    considered, is good within the context of the era.


    (excerpted with permission)




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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    Do you have to call QDB and get permission or can you just give it to yourself, being the publisher?
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you have to call QDB and get permission or can you just give it to yourself, being the publisher? >>




    I can grant it at my own discretion as Whitman's publisher.

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