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Scam from Ebay buyer?

Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
This is the third email he has sent me over the last week. He asked if I would be interested in doing some more work with him and I said I maybe interested depending on the details. This buyer has purchased only one coin from me high dollar/grade.

***************Heres the email

I'm leaving on 3rd of April, and I will return on 5th of May. If this should
not conflict with your timetable, this is what the task involves:

By my own business and full time job, I also work part time with ********.org. and as other European merchants that want to speed up the orders and improve the quality of service,they have a customer manager for every region of the world.

Basically, here is what I have to do for each client: First I am alerted when they (**********) need to receive a payment from their client from my region (USA), (all clients pay by bank draft, also called wire transfer, to my account)

After the client has completed the deposit to my account, I have to check my
account to see the deposit and confirm it together with the amount.

Then, after the deposit has cleared, I keep the 5% (my percentage) and I send the amount due (total amount minus 5%) by Money Orders or WU.
Of course, you will keep the entire percentage for the period that I will be away that’s 1.000$ monthly plus depending on the firm sales, should be about $700 per week,If you think you can do it, I can ask**************- the Managing Director,to send you full info.

Please let me know at your earliest convenience,I want to straighten out this before I leave,and please email me your phone number so George can contact you.

Thank you.

Comments

  • Run forrest run!
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  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    who cares about his problems?

    steer clear.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    classic money transfer scam.

    this one is very old.


    the funds you receive will eventually be reversed and the money you send via WU or MO can't be reversed. They make money by scamming you.

    don't contact eBay first. Contact the internet fraud dept. of the FBI and Secret Service, let them know. Give it a couple of days, then contact eBay. This is 100% a scam.
    (although the cynic in me says the FBI/SS won't run with it immediately even though you have contact info for the crook. so you may just go ahead and tell ebay and us image )


    PS: PM me the eBay id for the blocked bidders list! Please!
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  • sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭
    Trust your instinct.
    Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
    Will’sProoflikes
  • Common SCAM, you will find original wire wasn't good long after you send good funds money order. I forget the details on why funds "look" good before you send money order, but I know that's how it works. Saw a scam thing on history or discovery channel and something similar was on it - I think it's like the secret shopper "jobs" emails.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,484 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a scam.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • Percentage...clients..bank wire transfer... to your account..RUN!! image
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>classic money transfer scam. >>



    image

    Ed
  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was pretty sure on this being a scam, but why use your ebay info? just to try and build a level of trust? Its a mean mean world we live in.

    Just bought my wifes grandmother a computer and warning her of all the dangers online. Shes almost afraid to open emails from people she knows...she called me to ask if I had sent her something before she opened it.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why? either they are stupid or some of the ebay info is fake.

    but if they received a coin (wasn't to a mailbox store was it?) you have their info.

    maybe they don't fear the probably non-acting FBI//SS. contact them anyway. This one seems easy.


    PS still need that eBay id. shoot me a PM
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions

  • Is he from Kenya and will send you lottery winnings if you run them you account?




  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The next step in the scam is that you'll get an email saying he's going to have the client send the money directly to you, to speed up the process. Then you'll get an email saying the client screwed up, and the check he's sending is for way more than what he owes you. He'll say to Western Union the difference to him, because he needs it right away, and keep his 5% cut for your trouble. Then the check that arrives (if one was even sent) bounces, and if you shipped the coin before the check got there, it's gone too.

    I toyed with someone running an almost identical scam when I was selling an item on Craigslist, just to see how far I could string them along.

    Apparently, there are enough gullible people out there to keep the scam worth continuing to run.
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  • << <i>Is he from Kenya and will send you lottery winnings if you run them you account? >>

    Or nigeria image
  • derrybderryb Posts: 38,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    report him to ebay.

    Velocity, Not Valuation Defines A Bubble.

  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Most scams offer the victim "easy money" for doing almost nothing like the 5% in this deal.
    It's the bait.

    Their scam is looking for a victim that will "check my account to see the deposit and confirm it"
    then send a MO or WU. Their hope is that the victim thinks it cleared when he sees it in his account.
    In reality it can be reversed after it's seen in the account and the MO or WU that the victim sent will have been cashed by then and can't be reversed.

    It said the 5% would be about $700 per week so the victim would have used MO or WU to send about $56,000 in real money if it lasted a month.

    The scam ends when the victims bank tells the victim that "those wire transfers have been reversed".
    Ed
  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    Can you PM me the buyer name? I want to put him on my blocked list.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    the most unbelievable part of this scam is that peoiple actually fall for it !
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    NEVER NEVER NEVER answer any email pertaining to ebay or paypal through your personal email acct. where you are required to sign into either from your email. if the message is legit, it will be in your ebay messages box on your ebay homepage.
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Are you sure this is the buyer? This is weird in that the scam is an old one but the purchase is not normal. In fact, it makes me worry about your sale. Make sure you follow all ebay and paypal rules and procedures. --Jerry
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,914 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sounds like a scam to me as well. stay away
  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sounds like a variation of another scam.
    Buyer wants your item at your price and wants to send you a money order for the item plus $xxxx.xx. Says he will have his courier (friend, relative, employee, whatever) pick it up locally because they need the cash for something. Buyer wants you to cash the money order, give the person picking it up the $xxxx.xx less a percentage for your trouble. Money order clears when you cash it but ends up being reversed or charged back. You are out the item sold and the money you sold it for plus the cash you gave the guy picking it up.
    Definite scam here.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PS bank draft is a type of check not a type of wire transfer
    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • Money order clears when you cash it but ends up being reversed or charged back

    I thought money orders could be cashed at places like 7 11 ?
  • Yup, looks like a scam. At least he bought a high $ coin from you though! image
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't even think about it.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't do it !!!
    Timbuk3
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i>
    I thought money orders could be cashed at places like 7 11 ?
    >>




    Exactly, they can easily be cashed.
    In this deal it sounds like they pay the victim with a bank draft that can be reversed but the victim is the one that pays with a money order or western union which the scamer can cash easily and can't be reversed.

    This might not even be from the ebay seller or if it was they might use one normal deal to build confidence and it's no loss for them if they bought something they wanted or something they can re-sell.


    Since a bank draft is like a check the deal is like the one in the link:

    fraud.org Link

    They tell you to wire money to them after you’ve deposited the check. If you’re selling something, they say they’ll pay you by having someone in the U.S. who owes them money send you a check. It will be for more than the sale price; you deposit the check, keep what you’re owed, and wire the rest to them. If it’s part of a work-at-home scheme, they may claim that you’ll be processing checks from their “clients.” You deposit the checks and then wire them the money minus your “pay.” Or they may send you a check for more than your pay “by mistake” and ask you to wire them the excess. In the sweepstakes and foreign money offer variations of the scam, they tell you to wire them money for taxes, customs, bonding, processing, legal fees, or other expenses that must be paid before you can get the rest of the money.
    Ed
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    scam

    1996,1997,2000 :)

  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pass!
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    After this line : "I'm leaving on 3rd of April, and I will return on 5th of May." I would have responded with : " Dear John,
    Don't bother coming back here.

    Sincerely !

    John D'oh "
  • Thanks Ed image
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,167 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yup, looks like a scam. At least he bought a high $ coin from you though! image >>



    let me guess where he is getting the money to buy coins (to launder the money)
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