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levinlllevinll Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
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Customer brought this into my store today. It's medallion honoring Pope Alexander VII.

Is this a recent coin or something old ? I'm guessing recent.

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  • STLNATSSTLNATS Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
    links don't open for me
    Always interested in St Louis MO & IL metro area and Evansville IN national bank notes and Vatican/papal states coins and medals!
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,861 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your links arn't linked
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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Customer brought this into my store today. It's medallion honoring Pope Alexander VII.

    Is this a recent coin or something old ? I'm guessing recent.

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    I could get the first one to pull up, but the second is a repeat of the first and is not actually the reverse of the medal.
    Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
  • levinlllevinll Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    Links should now work.
  • STLNATSSTLNATS Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
    Hard to tell from the scan, but from the poor level of detail exhibited - especially on the reverse - it appears to be a cast of an original annual medal. On the other hand, it could be a restrike and what I'm reacting to is the result of environmental damage from the piece being buried and then improperly cleaned.

    Almost all of the bronzes before the late 1700s or so were extensively restruck into the early 1800s and are highly collectible. If it is a cast its probably much newer and less/not desirable.

    Sorry I can't opine more, on the road today and won't be back to my reference materials until sometime this evening.
    Always interested in St Louis MO & IL metro area and Evansville IN national bank notes and Vatican/papal states coins and medals!
  • levinlllevinll Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for detective work !
  • IosephusIosephus Posts: 872 ✭✭✭
    It's an anachronistic restrike (or cast copy of said restrike) of a medal commemorating the end of the plague in Rome. The proper medal for this reverse design uses an obverse dated for regnal year 3 and corresponds to the year 1657; your piece is dated 1655 (under the bust). As STLNATS said, it's too difficult to tell if this is a restrike or a cast copy, but in any case it is unfortunately not very desirable.
    Joe
    Virtus Collection - Renaissance and Baroque Medals
  • levinlllevinll Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭
    That's for the detective work. My thinking was that it was a restrike, but I wanted someone who has more experience in these to chime in.
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