What is Rarer, an 1804 Dollar or a 1986 McDonalds Placemat?

ambro51 · February 24, 2012 1:38PM

.......well? can you answer honestly?

mrpaseo · February 24, 2012 1:42PM

A little early to be that drunk doncha think? The night is young.

Ray

LanceNewmanOCC · February 24, 2012 1:46PM

<< A little early to be that drunk doncha think? The night is young. >>

originalisbest · February 24, 2012 1:54PM

Most likely, the placemat is rarer in an absolute sense, but more people earnestly desire the 1804 dollar. Plus, intrinsically, the 1804 dollar is made up of more valuable stuffs, and everything. 'Cause silver is worth more than paper, at least in our world today. If any of this confuses you, ambro51, I could call up some charts. It'd be my pleasure.

JamesMurray · February 24, 2012 2:00PM

I typed 1986 mcdonalds placemat into google , theres no shortage.

originalisbest · February 24, 2012 2:02PM

Too bad, looks like I'm sitting on a turkey then, what with my bundles of same. Ah well!

Tootawl · February 24, 2012 2:19PM

On Ebay...
"0 results found for
1986 mcdonalds placemat"

Tootawl · February 24, 2012 2:22PM

WOW!!!

"32 results found for
mcdonalds placemat "

LogPotato · February 24, 2012 2:22PM

Well here is the very rare Ex boyfriend specimen

Linky

originalisbest · February 24, 2012 2:23PM

The important question is, are there any 1804 dollars currently available on eBay??? We just might be able to put this issue to bed, at that. I eagerly await any new developments.

originalisbest · February 24, 2012 2:24PM

Ah, LogPotato, great minds think alike (bid placed!)

JamesMurray · February 24, 2012 2:25PM

"dont know if its real or not"

Why do they never hazard a guess ?

originalisbest · February 24, 2012 2:26PM

You know, if it weren't utterly illegal and morally reprehensible, it seems one could earn quite a nice living selling off ex-boyfriend copies of 1804 dollars.

(Too bad the same can't be said of McDonald's placemats)

WoodenJefferson · February 24, 2012 2:29PM

If it's the one that came with four different colored wax crayons, I'm in.

Hmmmm....maybe that was Denny's

PerryHall · February 24, 2012 10:03PM

Rarity is just one factor. Remember that it's both supply and demand rather than just supply. Demand for old trash from Micky D's is probably close to zero.

Broadstruck · February 24, 2012 11:11PM

I used to work for a fellow that kept and collected everything Fast Food wise especially Happy Meal toys.

Yet if any of the fast food establishments ran a special limited food item, he'd wash the styrofoam container even prior to consumption to save it

ajaan · February 24, 2012 11:27PM

<< Rarity is just one factor. Remember that it's both supply and demand rather than just supply. >>

One of the best statements I've read on this site. It is so true. I have a British coin with a mintage of about 20 but I can't even sell it for $750 because the demand isn't there. Demand is as important as supply.

ambro51 · February 24, 2012 11:48PM

I suppose what started this thead is the absurdity to my mind the value attached to stupid 12 cent comic books. Ok few we're saved and many want them. Ok we have McDonalds placemats from 25 years ago. I will wager almost none of these exist in any condition. So let's say one of the Collectables magazines and ONE collector begins a collecting thing and catalogs them. A FEW collectors appear and some, but VERY few examples come to light....God knows how since almost none exist. Now we have demand and hardly any supply. How long do you think it would be untill the finest known of some Alladin promotion placemat in crisp unused is selling for 10K since only two are known. Doubt it? I don't. We are ALL crazy ~~~~for another example the value of old silent movie theater lobby cards...another item designed to be discarded

MisterBungle · February 25, 2012 12:16AM

You people just collect the wrong thing.

ambro51 was right, here's the rare stuff...

McDonalds Tray Covers (Placemats)

~

joeykoins · February 25, 2012 12:28AM

It could be something?Save for "ANTIQUE ROADSHOW" to see it! Better yet,send it in to PCGS to have it GRADED!!!

MrSpud · February 25, 2012 12:45AM

I heard that someone figured out how to make perfect forgeries of the placemats. I think their name was Xerox. It ruined the whole market......

CaptHenway · February 25, 2012 12:48AM

Does it diminish the value if the placemat is struck through grease?

COALPORTER · February 25, 2012 1:26AM

Some of McDonalds' Key Monopoly game pieces had a mintage of zero.

And probably cost McDs' enough business to buy a few 1904s.

COALPORTER · February 25, 2012 1:27AM

1804s ^^^^^

coinkat · February 25, 2012 1:38AM

Which is easier to promote?

Seriously, there are lemmings everywhere.

originalisbest · February 25, 2012 1:46AM

<< I suppose what started this thead is the absurdity to my mind the value attached to stupid 12 cent comic books. Ok few we're saved and many want them. Ok we have McDonalds placemats from 25 years ago. I will wager almost none of these exist in any condition. So let's say one of the Collectables magazines and ONE collector begins a collecting thing and catalogs them. A FEW collectors appear and some, but VERY few examples come to light....God knows how since almost none exist. Now we have demand and hardly any supply. How long do you think it would be untill the finest known of some Alladin promotion placemat in crisp unused is selling for 10K since only two are known. Doubt it? I don't. We are ALL crazy ~~~~for another example the value of old silent movie theater lobby cards...another item designed to be discarded >>

So what's so shocking about desiring things that were designed to be discarded? For whatever reason, if the item in question was desireable to you when it was current, and now you find yourself desiring one again, but find that there are few extant, there's your supply and demand. Same thing happened with 1903-O dollars, still a nifty coin, but before my time it was THE Morgan, few collectors had ever seen one, much more desireable than a mere 1893-S. Supply then shifted and demand was more satisfied, and the price went down. Sorry for you that you feel so strongly the "absurdity to my mind the value attached to stupid 12 cent comic books". They are hardly any more "stupid" than your cherished gold dollars. Perhaps they are nothing more than ink on paper, and there's no way anyone should attach any special meaning to them as such, but the same can be said of your gold dollars. I'll give you face value for your entire collection, 1 US dollar each. Heck, I'll even be generous, and offer you their current agreed-upon melt value. Whatever sentiment and value you foolishly attach to them above that baseline dollar amount is entirely your own problem.

WinLoseWin · February 25, 2012 2:09AM

MisterBungle wrote:

<< You people just collect the wrong thing.

ambro51 was right, here's the rare stuff...

McDonalds Tray Covers (Placemats)

~ >>

That page is worth a read and has some funny commentary. They seem more of a sarcastic collector than serious, or a combination.

It goes to show that if it exists someone will collect it and if it doesn't exist, then someone would if it did.

If you polled the public, I would not be shocked if a significant number viewed coin collecting on par with comic book and McDonalds placemat collectors (oops, I mean tray covers). Gotta be careful who you feel superior to as plenty of others out there have that same view of us. I think it would be best settled by war. May the best hobby win?

originalisbest · February 25, 2012 2:15AM

<< MisterBungle wrote:

<< You people just collect the wrong thing.

ambro51 was right, here's the rare stuff...

McDonalds Tray Covers (Placemats)

~ >>

That page is worth a read and has some funny commentary. They seem more of a sarcastic collector than serious, or a combination.

It goes to show that if it exists someone will collect it and if it doesn't exist, then someone would if it did.

If you polled the public, I would not be shocked if a significant number viewed coin collecting on par with comic book and McDonalds placemat collectors (oops, I mean tray covers). Gotta be careful who you feel superior to as plenty of others out there have that same view of us. I think it would be best settled by war. May the best hobby win?

>>

Thanks, WinLoseWin! I would agree with you 100%. No need for a war between hobbies, I think there's room enough for all of them -- even placemat collectors or doorknob enthusiasts. It does irritate me a tad to see someone get a little more than sanctimonious about the "superiority" of whatever they happen to collect. If some collectibles field doesn't interest you, fine, but why denigrate it on top of that?

johnny9434 · February 25, 2012 4:54AM

a better question would be which is rarer, the big mac styrophone package or the silver dollar? then again thats what being on unemployment does to one after a while

OldEastside · February 25, 2012 4:57AM

Is it original or a restrike oops I mean reprint

Steve

JamesMurray · February 25, 2012 5:02AM

In 2008 McDonalds included a copy of the Phillies World series ring in one of the meals or all..dunno.. I tried to get one but they were going for silly money on ebay.

jmski52 · February 25, 2012 7:08AM

I think I've lost my complete set of Hardee's California Raisins. Dang.

relicsncoins · February 25, 2012 1:12PM

Quick economics lesson.

Supply: A uniquely shaped booger in my nose. Quantity 1.

Demand: None.

Value. $0

ambro51 · February 25, 2012 1:15PM

I'll give you $15 for it But only if it's left nostril. I tried to get interested in the right nostril variety but I'm not sure I can trust Breens research. Supposed to be three times rarer but you know how rarity ratings change over time. The whole Hankerchief issue set back booger collecting thirty years. No one carries them anymore, so that source of supply has dried up .

coindeuce · February 25, 2012 1:27PM

Pick a winner already!

pennyannie · February 25, 2012 5:41PM

I save and collect a lot of things, but i can never find anyone that wants to pay more than i did for the same thing. On a positive note, it is only money and so far i have been able to continue to find ways to make more to buy the next overpriced iyem that i want.

tightbudget · February 25, 2012 7:26PM

If I had to guess, it'd still be the 1804 dollar. You'd be surprised at how many of these odds things are still lying around in attics, basements, etc.

I remember last summer while at an antique store in PA, they were selling KFC buckets from the late 60s. They were still a bit greasy and had a few crumbs leftover in them. Nasty.

PerryHall · February 25, 2012 9:21PM

<< Quick economics lesson.

Supply: A uniquely shaped booger in my nose. Quantity 1.

Demand: None.

Value. $0 >>

Thanks for that visual.

johnny9434 · February 26, 2012 4:15AM

<< Is it original or a restrike oops I mean reprint

Steve >>

i think its an original

What is Rarer, an 1804 Dollar or a 1986 McDonalds Placemat?

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