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78cc Vam Question, Gouge through the MM

I know theres hard core Vammers here, have any of you ran across or seen this gouge through the MM? It now lives in our Hosts slab at a 63. Could this be a new piece? Pre strike damage? You can see clearly that the MM is raised up from the gouge, I've looked at Vam World and found zero.
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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't tell, but is it a raised mark? From the pic it looks more like a struck through error, maybe a wood splinter.


    Either way it's cool, but very cool if you discovered a new VAM. I have not seen another one like it.
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a strike through debris of some sort.

    Not uncommon as wood was the heat source for the steam to run the presses.
    Everything was run on wood as the fuel source.

    bobimage

    PS: Nice coin and I think the strike through brought it down a point.

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can't tell, but is it a raised mark? From the pic it looks more like a struck through error, maybe a wood splinter. >>


    This is my impression, also.
  • If it was struck through, wouldn't the MM be lost due to the object being in the way?
  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    with 160 tons of pressure I doubt the wood would prevent anything. But it's "shadow" is left
    on the coin.

    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a struck thru - fairly common
    on CC dollars (especially from the
    GSA Hoard).

    Some say they are struck thru a piece
    of wood, but that's difficult to prove.

    It doesn't add any value to
    a nice high-grade coin like this....
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  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a struck thru - fairly common
    on CC dollars (especially from the
    GSA Hoard).

    Some say they are struck thru a piece
    of wood, but that's difficult to prove.

    It doesn't add any value to
    a nice high-grade coin like this.... >>




    Fred,


    I definitley think the strike thrus are mostly wood. I was told that planchets used to be dried with sawdust, and every once in a while, a piece would stick. I'm sure you've heard that already, though! Here's mine. A close-up look reveals what appear to be grains from the wood chip. I can't seem to find the closer shot I took though...


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    -Paul

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