Tough call on a possibly tough Overton variety....

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• mozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 6:31AM

  Looks like O-102a to me. I think I see some of the cracks from the LDS, so that is what I call it.

  I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

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• jesbroken Posts: 10,574 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 6:43AM

  I agree with Mozin. At least an O-102 but quite likely an O-102a.
  Jim
  

  
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• jayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 7:31AM

  
  
  << <i>I agree with Mozin. At least an O-102 but quite likely an O-102a.
  Jim >>
  
  
  
  But I don't want you to agree with Mozin !
  
  Mozin, do you really think you see a crack ?
  There's a scratch near the critical area.... but where's the crack ?
  Under 20x magnification, the only place I might see a hint is inside
  the B on the headband.

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• mozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 9:07AM

  Here is my 1808 O-102a for comparison. Check out all the cracks and breaks on my coin so you know what to look for on yours. Remember, the small cracks wear off easily in circulation.
  
  
  
  

  I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

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• messydesk Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 9:42AM

  Other than the start of the radial break below the 0 in the date, I don't see any of the other cracks. Noticeably absent is any sign of where the crack would join the top left of the 0. This is strong enough to be visible on low grade specimens. I guess the question is what counts as O-102. I would think that this die stage is reserved for a specimen with no obverse crack, not just an early stage of the crack, but I don't call those shots.

  John
  Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution

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• jayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 9:45AM

  That is a beauty Mozin, I was just ogling it on coinzip....
  my 102a is available for comparison as well. I guess a VG like this
  is probably not the best grade for defiatively attributing the die state....
  But for now I'm gonna call it a 102* , just like BB's homerun record

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• jayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 1:51PM

  Drat...the more I look at it, the more I'm "feeling" that there is something there.
  Both of the tougher varieties for 1808 are primes, which is a bit frustrating, since it's a bit of a judgement call really, and alot of
  looking at things carefully with the loupe.
  At least with the other tough variety (110) both the prime and the LDS are scarce !

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• MonteCarlo Posts: 142

  February 21, 2012 2:06PM

  That coin looks to me like an O-106. The 106 is only obverse die with Star 1 pointing at the upper edge of a denticle. Moreover the reverse possesses the characteristic "dot" on the upper edge of the wing near where it meets the shield. But I'm a Bust noob, what do I know?

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• MonteCarlo Posts: 142

  February 21, 2012 2:10PM

  Oh drat, looks like the 102 Star 1 points to the UE too. Might be a 102 then.

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• MonteCarlo Posts: 142

  February 21, 2012 2:12PM

  Yeah, upon further comparison I think it's a 102.

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• mozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 2:25PM

  Busties are sure fun!

  I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.

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• astrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

  February 21, 2012 3:34PM

  I am not seeing the cracks or the triangular die chip. I think you might have an O-102 prime.

  Numismatist Ordinaire
  See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces

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