Raw Capped Bust Half Dime, Thoughts on Grade? H10C

Barndog · February 16, 2012 3:44AM

Tough one to grade, at least I think so.

Unknown · February 16, 2012 3:47AM

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UtahCoin · February 16, 2012 3:56AM

OK, where did you find it?

A lot more reverse detail than obverse... VG?

Batman23 · February 16, 2012 4:04AM

The obverse looks like a Fine but the reverse looks about XF with good rims. The obverse does look to have actual wear including nicks and dings that the reverse is lacking. Makes me think that this was a mounted piece or something that protected the reverse.

Judgeing from the responses of the LM-11 you must have a special variety...

Barndog · February 16, 2012 4:11AM

the 1830 LM-11 die marriage is NOTORIOUS for a weak obverse strike. I once cherried (and later traded away) the finest known example of this die marriage. That coin was a mint state coin with a weak obverse, so it garnered an AU-58 grade at NGC. Anytime I see a disproportionate degree of "apparent wear" on an 1830 half dime, I check closely to see if the coin is an LM-11

RYK · February 16, 2012 4:20AM

Very cool!

rhedden · February 16, 2012 4:30AM

Were these slightly cupped when they were struck? Seems like a coin that is bowed outward (convex) on the obverse, and wore down a disproportionate amt. on the obverse.

Barndog · February 16, 2012 4:32AM

<< <i>Were these slightly cupped when they were struck? Seems like a coin that is bowed outward (convex) on the obverse, and wore down a disproportionate amt. on the obverse. >>

some have said that the die may have been slightly "dished"

rhedden · February 16, 2012 4:37AM

Reminds me of 1874-CC half dollars. The front grades VG, the back grades VF30. This coin is an even more extreme case, however.

Barndog · February 16, 2012 4:58AM

makes me wish I had saved images of the AU58 I cherried

btw, I once cherried an NGC AU53 too...but traded that one away as well!

BaseballAbs · February 16, 2012 5:09AM

Barndog, what is the rarity of this coin?

UtahCoin · February 16, 2012 5:21AM

<< <i>Barndog, what is the rarity of this coin? >>

R-6, 13-30

relicsncoins · February 16, 2012 5:25AM

Nice find!!

MrHalfDime · February 16, 2012 5:29AM

"btw, I once cherried an NGC AU53 too...but traded that one away as well!"

Do tell. I wonder who might have been the fortunate recipient of that coin?

For those who know the series well, and who are aware of the very weakly struck obverse for this specific die marriage, your coin might grade VF-35 (I couldn't quite give the reverse a full XF, but close). However, for those who grade an overall coin by the grade of the weakest side, and who do not give credence to strike issues, they may see your coin as no better than F-12, or even VG. This may be one of those coins which present an argument for the split grading concept abandoned by ANACS many years ago.

No amount of debate will change what the coin is, however - a nice, original, and crusty example of the 1830 LM-11/V14, an R6 variety.

STONE · February 16, 2012 5:43AM

Awesome Barndog. Like MrHalfDime my original impression, based on the reverse was VF-35.

I also just picked up a R6 Dime which has a similar strike pattern.

Meltdown · February 16, 2012 5:55AM

It may be rare, but such a huge difference between obverse & reverse details bugs me.
It looks very original however.

Walkerguy21D · February 16, 2012 6:04AM

Very cool!
I knew something like that was afoot when you said it was tough to grade!

Barndog · February 16, 2012 7:08AM

<< <i>It may be rare, but such a huge difference between obverse & reverse details bugs me.
It looks very original however. >>

it bugs me too. I wish the early mint workers were more squared away

DIMEMAN · February 16, 2012 7:15AM

Nice coin....I can truly appreciate it for it's rarity despite the weak obverse.

And it's nice and original.....what's not to like about this coin.

Very nice pick-up!

Raw Capped Bust Half Dime, Thoughts on Grade? H10C

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