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Two Off-center Ikes From an Original Bag

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
Lady who sold them to me worked at a bank years ago, and cherried them from an original bag.
They also have a clam shell Ike they are bringing back another day.

Sorry about the scans quality

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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just as a point of info, they are not
    Off Center Strikes.

    They are Broadstruck - no design
    elements are missing, which is
    what makes a coin Off Center.

    They were struck with the planchets
    laying on top of the collar, but
    centered enough that the planchet
    wasn't 'off centered' to miss any
    of the die design.
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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just as a point of info, they are not
    Off Center Strikes.

    They are Broadstruck - no design
    elements are missing, which is
    what makes a coin Off Center.

    They were struck with the planchets
    laying on top of the collar, but
    centered enough that the planchet
    wasn't 'off centered' to miss any
    of the die design. >>



    It sure is nice when someone explains something in easy to undertand terms. Thanks Fred.

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  • cool coins and info
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just as a point of info, they are not
    Off Center Strikes.

    They are Broadstruck - no design
    elements are missing, which is
    what makes a coin Off Center.

    They were struck with the planchets
    laying on top of the collar, but
    centered enough that the planchet
    wasn't 'off centered' to miss any
    of the die design. >>

    Shouldn't the "reeding" be missing as well? image

    Cool coins though! image
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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool !!!
    Timbuk3
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,711 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just as a point of info, they are not
    Off Center Strikes.

    They are Broadstruck - no design
    elements are missing, which is
    what makes a coin Off Center.

    They were struck with the planchets
    laying on top of the collar, but
    centered enough that the planchet
    wasn't 'off centered' to miss any
    of the die design. >>



    I remember buying a mint-sewn bag of Bicentennial halves when they came out. I found two partial collar, or so-called "railroad rim" errors, and sold them to Fred!
    LOL!
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the coin is a full broadstrike out of collar,
    then there won't be any reeding.

    However, there are many coins that lay
    on top of the collar, and are struck as
    broadstrikes,but due to the strong
    striking pressure, the dies force a bit
    of the planchet, usually at opposite
    points/ends, very slightly into the collar.

    Many collectors consider a nicely broadstruck
    coin, with 'tips' of small amounts of reeding,
    to still be broadstrikes....

    A few collectors will insist that on the
    Broadstruck coins they collect, there be
    absolutely NO reeding marks whatsoever.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,183 ✭✭✭✭✭
    cool coins smitty and thanks for the education fred image
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks Fred, I just learned something, the difference between an o/c and broadstruck.....a simple answer....coll and thanks! >>



    i agree

    i've been misusing off-center quite a bit
    .

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  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Neat coins and great explanations!
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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    Ditto!
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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    I also want to thank Fred for the information.
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