A question about 1972 P Lincoln DD varieties

cucamongacoin · January 24, 2012 1:25PM

In the Cherrypickers Guide, 5th Ed, Vol1, the image for the FS 104 shows some ridges on the rim adjacent to LIBERTY. Is this diagnostic of this particular variety or are there others with the same anomaly? The coin in question is undoubtedly a DD, but I'm not certain which one. Also, the doubling appears to be clockwise.
Thanks, Mark

TexasNationals · January 24, 2012 1:37PM

That is a cud on die 4, die 4 is the rarest of all of them and a collector will pay huge bucks for a MS example. A cud on a non-die 4 is very possible so post a pic and remove the doubt.

cucamongacoin · January 24, 2012 2:21PM

This is about the best I can do without macro...

LoveMyLiberty · January 24, 2012 2:49PM

These are the FS- 01-1972-104 (033.54), 4-0-1 DDO

WaterSport · January 24, 2012 2:50PM

Die #4 is a coin that can be found with no cuds, to major cuds like the example below. Also cuds are found on other non Die #4 cents. So you can not determine if its a Die # 4 by cuds alone. The doubling, and reverse die scratches must also be there. On some aVERY faint/fine die crack can be seen above the L in liberty.

Check both Coppercoins.com and the Lincolnresource.com web pages to see other photos and markers.

WS

cucamongacoin · January 24, 2012 2:55PM

thanks Watersport, is that tiny line horizontal or vertical to the "L"?

LoveMyLiberty · January 24, 2012 3:06PM

There is a counterclockwise doubling of the letters of
LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST, and the date.
A short die gouge protrudes from the rim north of the L
in LIBERTY.
On the rev. three nearly parallel die scratches extend
SW from the bottom of the N in UNITED.

cucamongacoin · January 24, 2012 3:12PM

Love My Liberty, thanks, this has a short horizontal line above the L, but the reverse is virtually die polish free. There is one short line parallel to the rim , and at the rim, above the N in UNITED.

Harry779 · January 24, 2012 3:13PM

heres a die 4 coin found in circulation a couple of weeks ago.

72 DDO #4

Maybe you can compare it to this one.

LoveMyLiberty · January 24, 2012 3:28PM

<< <i>Love My Liberty, thanks, this has a short horizontal line above the L, but the reverse is virtually die polish free. There is one short line parallel to the rim , and at the rim, above the N in UNITED. >>

Wexler & Flynn, in their book The Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents, 2nd Edition,
say the obv. die failed early. There may be a short vertical die gouge found inside the upper N
of UNITED and numerous die scratches run west to east above & below the Memorial.

tahoe98 · January 25, 2012 12:23AM

...markers for the 004 from coppercoins site

WaterSport · January 25, 2012 1:34AM

Yes, horizontal line above the L and its very short, not much past the L. Hey Harry, thats your coin I posted, hope you do not mind,its the best picture of all the 72 #4 I have ever seen.

WS

A question about 1972 P Lincoln DD varieties

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