In-Hand pics - Crossing a Seated Half
RedHerring
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Here's my in-hand pics. She has excellent luster that I can't really capture in my images. The strike looks very strong.
I bought this 1855-O Seated Half for MS62 retail money. As you can see it's in an ICG MS64 holder. I want to get her into an NGC or PCGS holder as a 63 (at least
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What do you think? Better chance at NGC or PCGS or does it make a difference? What about the obverse "toning" spots that look like the start of corrosion?
Comments/advice appreciated.
I bought this 1855-O Seated Half for MS62 retail money. As you can see it's in an ICG MS64 holder. I want to get her into an NGC or PCGS holder as a 63 (at least
)What do you think? Better chance at NGC or PCGS or does it make a difference? What about the obverse "toning" spots that look like the start of corrosion?
Comments/advice appreciated.
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JJ
I like that coin....that doesn't look like corrosion to me, just toning. I have had success crossing ICG coins to PCGS in the past.......which kind of goes against my comment above, huh?
It is to hard to judge the luster, but from the photos it looks like luster brakes
could bring it down to MS62 or 61? I don't think it looks like the typical MS64 that PCGS
likes. Let us know how it comes out!
A friend of mine once tried to cross an MS65 ICG Morgan Dollar to PCGS, and it kept coming back Altered Surfaces. Finally showed it to a dealer at a Baltimore show, and the dealer said the cheek had been "worked on," and he knew the exact person who doctored it. Prior to that, I had considered ICG fairly reputable, but I lost a lot of faith seeing my friend swallow that coin. Probably lost 80% of his money on it in the end.
<< <i>Looks like frost breaks in the fields and rub on her legs. Magic 8 ball says "Outlook not so good" >>
Precisely what I thought. But you have to judge the luster in hand we are just going off the picture.
<< <i>You've been here for a couple of years so hopefully you'll take the 'looks like rub' comments with a grain of salt. As may be concluded from my recent GTG thread, grading from pics alone can be really tough.
I don't buy that "can't grade form pictures" stuff. Those of us who have seen enough coins and understand the dynamics of photography and can mentally pick up on points in the picture and correlate it to a coin they have held before can get pretty close, like in the 80%+ range which is better than Vegas odds. While it is true you can always miss something and in hand is the only true way to grade the real problem is most people can't grade effectively in any medium and the blame it on poor seller pictures.
However, it looks like one of those coins you hear the stories about "I sent it in four times and got grades ranging from AU58 to MS63"......
I would look at this coin close under light as you tilt the coin. If there are hairlines that you can see easily I bet the coin comes back as genuine or MS62. I would be inclined to stabilize the coin and let it rest a year or so before sending it in to have a better chance at getting in graded slab.
Percent chance (IMO):
PCGS 64: 2%
PCGS 63: 15%
PCGS 62: 45%
PCGS 61: 15%
PCGS 60: 2%
PCGS 58: 10%
PCGS 55: 2%
PCGS Gen/BB: 9%
up to MS67 grade.
1) Crackout and send to NGC
2) Submit for crossover to PCGS
3) repeat as many times as you want to get to the grade you think it deserves.