Does a Dealer Dilute Their Brand By Offering Really Crappy Examples of Important Items?

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• EVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 23, 2012 1:31PM

  Yes.

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• Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 23, 2012 1:33PM

  I hear you loud and clear !!!

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• RYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 23, 2012 1:40PM

  Yes, and being important does not necessarily mitigate it.

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• crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭

  January 23, 2012 2:35PM

  I for one don't think so and I tend to think the hobby puts too much of an absolute emphasis on condition if it can ignore the core object if it is less than ideally preserved. I am sorry, but I disagree if anyone thinks that a MS69+ walking liberty is close to as important as one of the impaired 1922 HR Peace dollar or the 1870s dollar that was worked. I think people think that condition equates to the publicly perceived value and potential for future gains and while I can see that being the paramount thing for a dealer it is back a couple of notches on my importance scale as a collector. I for one applaud any dealer that caters to all levels of collectors as long as the coin descriptions are honest and the history and attributes of any coin focused in on.
  
  I can only assume that a specific object is being discussed and while I am not sure what you are talking about what ever happened to "one man's trash is another mans treasure"

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• Bochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 23, 2012 2:49PM

  I think so and I think if a dealer wants to handle things like that, he/she should set up a "front" to deal with items like that.
  Just like on ebay sellers can have multiple selling/buying handles.
  
  
  Edited to add: This is kind of like a classy, high end, seller selling GEN'ed items and selling them for way above what they would be even if not GEN'ed and calling them an actual grade.
  Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a grade/GEN, but the way you do it may impact how others view you/your business. So, if you are going to do that, it may well be better to use a 2nd business name. Just mho.

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• Coinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 24, 2012 4:02AM

  
  
  << <i>I for one don't think so and I tend to think the hobby puts too much of an absolute emphasis on condition if it can ignore the core object if it is less than ideally preserved. I am sorry, but I disagree if anyone thinks that a MS69+ walking liberty is close to as important as one of the impaired 1922 HR Peace dollar or the 1870s dollar that was worked. I think people think that condition equates to the publicly perceived value and potential for future gains and while I can see that being the paramount thing for a dealer it is back a couple of notches on my importance scale as a collector. I for one applaud any dealer that caters to all levels of collectors as long as the coin descriptions are honest and the history and attributes of any coin focused in on.
  
  I can only assume that a specific object is being discussed and while I am not sure what you are talking about what ever happened to "one man's trash is another mans treasure" >>
  
  
  
  I think at some point a coin can be so aesthetically bad as to detract from the rest of the inventory. Offering choice-for-the-grade low condition coins is one thing. I have no problem w/that. Having butt-ugly POSes in your case is something else. PCGS should make a holder that completely obscures such coins. Instead of the genuine grade it should be "genuine minus."

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• shorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 24, 2012 4:38AM

  I don't think so...I actually appreciate someone having a bunch of scudzy chain cents to pick through...maybe if you are talking Morgans. I do expect them to be priced accordingly, but for early coppers there's really not complete concensus on what should be normal and what should be gen'd. A black corroded dog of a 1799 cent is actually the way they normally look.

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• TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 24, 2012 5:05AM

  
  
  << <i>Sometimes something is SO hideous that you shouldn't buy or sell it. Even if it is otherwise a historically important object.
  
  I suppose everything has a price. It's just kind of seedy, kinda like walking into a pawn shop...... >>
  
  
  
  What kind of dealer ? If he's a coin dealer he should have some crappy examples. Like any coin minted after 1964
  
  

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• Lakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 24, 2012 5:17AM

  Probably, but you can't sell what you don't have. Gotta make a living.......

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