New PCGS Genuine with detail Holders?

moosesr · January 11, 2012 4:35AM

What do the new PCGS Genuine Holders with a detail grade look like, I have heard about them, but haven't seen one yet?

Staircoins · January 11, 2012 5:22AM

Here is one.

Here is another.

Kove · January 11, 2012 5:29AM

At FUN last week, someone offered me a Morgan dollar in a Genuine holder that said "VF30 Details". I would have passed on the coin anyway, but I thought it was strange that the holder didn't say "VF Details" it specifically stated "VF30 Details". The coin and holder looked okay, but now I'm wondering if it was fake with that level of specificity.

giorgio11 · January 11, 2012 5:47AM

They exist and are real (until the counterfeiters get hold of them too). Here's a VF30 details PCGS early half eagle that was in the FUN Signature:

1810 Half Eagle VF30 Details PCGS Smoothed Fields

AnkurJ · January 11, 2012 5:49AM

It was started this year.

MrEureka · January 11, 2012 5:55AM

I think that this is a step in the right direction.

Three suggestions.

First, why bother stating that the coin is "Genuine"? It's no more necessary on a problem coin than on a problem-free coin.

Second, "XF Details - Cleaned" sounds and looks better than "Cleaning - XF Details".

Third, "Improperly Cleaned" would be better than "Cleaned".

HoledandCreative · January 11, 2012 3:26PM

That Half Eagle holder also states Net Grade. Interesting. Is it an older plastic? I thought they weren't doing Net Grade only Details Grade.

Baley · January 11, 2012 5:14PM

If that 1810 half eagle is indicative of a new PCGS Net Grade type of slab for high end coins, then I think that's a big improvement in appraisal value for the grading fee than a simple "genuine"

giorgio11 · January 11, 2012 9:23PM

<< <i>That Half Eagle holder also states Net Grade. Interesting. Is it an older plastic? I thought they weren't doing Net Grade only Details Grade.

>>

Nope, it's a new slab.

TwoSides2aCoin · January 11, 2012 9:59PM

Agrees with Mr Lustig. From the point of authentication and encapsulation, the brand itself is the authority on the genuineness of the item.
Plus Andy's suggestion enlightens , protects , identifies and helps determine the "added value" on coins in general, that dealers and hobbyists do not mind paying for anyway. Implementing minor changes could reap major benefits too.

Staircoins · January 12, 2012 12:59AM

<< <i>It was started last year. >>

There, I fixed it for you.

Julian · January 12, 2012 2:31AM

<< <i>I think that this is a step in the right direction.

Three suggestions.

First, why bother stating that the coin is "Genuine"? It's no more necessary on a problem coin than on a problem-free coin.

Second, "XF Details - Cleaned" sounds and looks better than "Cleaning - XF Details".

Third, "Improperly Cleaned" would be better than "Cleaned". >>

I also agree with Andy. He does come up with excellent suggestions from time to time.

messydesk · January 12, 2012 2:48AM

<< <i>That Half Eagle holder also states Net Grade. Interesting. Is it an older plastic? I thought they weren't doing Net Grade only Details Grade.

>>

Strange. The only ones I've seen have the details grade. I didn't think PCGS was getting into net grades. Did the fact that this is an Important Coin™ cause a different set of rules to be applied? The serial number contains an actual grade ("30") rather than an altered surfaces code. Regardless of the consensus opinion of what's the best approach to grade problem coins, it would be nice to know to the rules that were applied to grading this coin.

MFH · January 12, 2012 3:01AM

When new forms are issued - all the old forms should be removed from
the PCGS table. A friend somehow got hold of an old form for a Show Walk Thru
for a coin I thought would Genuine - but wanted an AU Details Cleaning Grade.

Its no big deal - but it would have been nice to have the Details Grade as well.

Yes, the coin did get a 92 - as expected.

New PCGS Genuine with detail Holders?

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