OK, Type B Washies redux, grades just back, coins in hand

NotSure · December 21, 2011 12:48PM

OK, I changed the title a bit, as it seems to be generating interest (again, and hopefully price increases...

)in the Washie Type B's

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 24061199 5864 1958 25C USA DNC
2 1 24061200 5864 1958 25C USA MS66
3 1 24061201 5872 1962 25C USA MS65
4 1 24061202 5860 1956 25C USA MS66

Now, I know it might seem like 'hmm, what's the big deal...MS66, MS65 Washies, when there are MS67's', so, why is he so happy?

Well, I picked these out carefully, picked them up on the cheap....basically what they'd sell for 'as they are graded'. All were undesignated (hint), hence my picking them up for very short $$, compared to what their value is now. Sent them in for simple crossover with my freebie coupon, so I only paid for shipping. Now, they do need to be sent back for proper attribution (which I believe brings the cost down somewhat significantly, as opposed to having it done all at once). Line 2 and 4 bring the top-pop's up by one each (got hosed on line item 1 by a mile, thought Line 3 would make it a 3-fer MS66, but I had my slight doubts, so I'm not unhappy about it, but I'm very happy with the results of Line 2 and 4......actually, extremely happy) . Can you guess what they actually might be, besides common, silver Washies?? (1tommy, stay out of this one!!! lol)

edited for...check out first line of post.. and they are now shipped, coming home to daddy, so daddy can send them back for attribution (and hopefully get an unattributed '64-D Type C picked up for another song, crossed).

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NotSure · December 21, 2011 1:04PM

<< Type B? Didn't I sell you some silver Washingtons? Hope you didn't cherry those from me! >>

Jaime..I said 'picked them up on the cheap'! LOL

(J/K...you've always been fair with me when I've bought from you....but no, they weren't from you, or I'd have let you know...it's a conscience thing, you know?)

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cointime · December 21, 2011 4:34PM

NotSure,

Those are some great grades for type B's very

Ken

LanceNewmanOCC · December 21, 2011 5:10PM

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i won't comment on the value or potential value of the coins but the numbers should be ran again for cost basis

1. the grading was not free. you would have had to purchased a membership to get the coupons, so hence only 1 will most likely be free
2. you should have had them attributed at the time of grading the first time, now you have to pay to ship there and back again, adding cost

when they go back you can consider a crackout grading for 1 or just get it attributed based on current grade and a regrade for 3 to get that 66 possibly along with attribution or attribute as a 65. also you could check pop reports ATS and consider yet another crossover/upgrade, more risk and cost involved, but potential upside depending on ATS pop reports

then obviously 2 4 can piggyback in the shipping package with 1 3

although doing it that way may require separate forms meaning you may desire to get a few more for each service to bring down cost per coin since separate forms for our host require separate shipping back to us. I think that ATS can ship all together for separate forms if the option is checked.

i personally try to ship a minimum of 4-6 items for each form. effort, time and money all seem to average out better

the exception is for coins worth $1000k+, some of those end up going out alone unfortunately due to my impatience and/or not having anything else to send out for a little while
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not telling you your business by any means.

your coins could be worth hundreds of dollars and an extra $20-50 may not make such a difference, that is your decision
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but aside from cost/effort, congratz on your picks, hope to see some pix!

1tommy · December 22, 2011 12:20AM

Hey My guess is Type B

This is my thoughts on sending in crossovers, it just seems its easier to cross over a coin first with a minimum grade than send it back for attribution, have done this with success with some of the superbirds. Congrats on the grades I think you did REAL good and will await responses from the other B collectors. I think you should sell me the 58 that dnc and crack it out and let me send it in, we both know how that worked on the Type C which is the pride of my collection. Congrats again Ken on the top pop and the search continues. Enjoy tom

Oh Yeah Have a Merry Christmas Everyone

morgandollar1878 · December 22, 2011 2:05AM

Very nice, you gotta provide pics some time. It would be great to see the 56 and 58. Wish I could find a 56 in MS66.

panther · December 22, 2011 3:01AM

This 1956 type B was on Ebay up for auction. I was I going to bid on the coin , but someone convince the owner to sell it for $7.50 on a Buy It Now.

I bet it would have gone much higher if He would have left it up for bid.

With that said, are there any ethics involved here . Should someone have alerted him that it was a type B worth More than $7.50?

Or is it just part of Cherry picking?

georgiacop50 · December 22, 2011 3:52AM

<< Now, they do need to be sent back for proper attribution (which I believe brings the cost down somewhat significantly, as opposed to having it done all at once). >>

You sure? It's $34 each ($24 attr. + $10 reholder) + the $8 order fee + postage both ways to get the FS#'s. You shudda selected attribution w/original order and paid the $24 each at that time, no?

docg · December 22, 2011 4:31AM

A 56 type B in PCGS is a big score! Very tough to find! Worth $500-$700 on a good day. The 58 isn't that tough, but a nice buy nonetheless!

NotSure · December 22, 2011 5:29AM

<< Very nice, you gotta provide pics some time. It would be great to see the 56 and 58. Wish I could find a 56 in MS66. >>

The '58 is so nicely toned, I will NEVER be able to take images good enough so you members can see the true beauty of it (and I'm not a fan of toned coins). I'll do my best before sending it back, but I MAY need the help of one of you members that CAN take good images that bring out a coins true toning (any volunteers???...lol). But

The '56 is a lightly toned coin, and very nice... our hosts are VERY tight when thses are being graded. I believe even tighter when they are being submitted for grading AND the attribution at the same time. That's why I sent them in for unattributed grading with my freebies. Our hosts are very tight on crossovers to begin with, but when it comes to a valuable variety, such as this variety, and it is a potential top-pop..(and there are only 4 '56 B's in MS66....as of now, and that pop hasn't changed in QUITE some time)

The '62 is a blast white coin. I believe that will give me 1/3 of the total pop of the '62 Type B in MS65, with 2 in MS66 and 1 in MS67 (though, there is one that a member owns in 67 that is unattributed.....that's a BIG coin, even without it being a Type

1tommy, you are right, I SHOULD send you the '62 and the '58. Heck, you got a 5 point bump on that '64-D Type C....considering it was cracked out, sent in, slabbed AU58, sent back to me, cracked out again, sent to you, you sent it in, and it gets slabbed MS63!!! THAT coin should have earned frequent traveller miles before residing in your collection!!! It's something I MAY seriously consider, as you DO seem to get some very decent grades when you submit raw.

erickso1 · December 22, 2011 5:34AM

Nice work Notsure. I picked up a 1957 type b off of Ebay last year on the cheap. I remember enjoying the hunt on Ebay looking for one that had been missed. (bad pics from last year.)

NotSure · December 22, 2011 5:40AM

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<< Now, they do need to be sent back for proper attribution (which I believe brings the cost down somewhat significantly, as opposed to having it done all at once). >>

You sure? It's $34 each ($24 attr. + $10 reholder) + the $8 order fee + postage both ways to get the FS#'s. You shudda selected attribution w/original order and paid the $24 each at that time, no? >>

You could very well be right, georgiacop...but not a wallet breaker, but I did have the thought that crossing them and not attributing MIGHT allow them to get the grade they deserved without being put under the scrutiny of possible new pop-tops on such tough coins to get in those grades. We knoow that they just don't hand out pop-tops like candy. I see your point, but it's an extra $30, plus the shipping, and to get those top-pops, it's well worth the extra few bucks.

<< A 56 type B in PCGS is a big score! Very tough to find! Worth $500-$700 on a good day. The 58 isn't that tough, but a nice buy nonetheless! >>

Considering the '58 Type B, in MS66 is a top-pop, I wouldn't quite say it isn't that tough...I KNOW you know your Washies, docg.....but there are only 7 in that grade as of this posting. I'd consider that a score...and the toning on it, should drive the premium up, as the toning is just killer.

LanceNewmanOCC · December 22, 2011 6:09AM

<< but I did have the thought that crossing them and not attributing MIGHT allow them to get the grade they deserved without being put under the scrutiny of possible new pop-tops on such tough coins to get in those grades. We know that they just don't hand out pop-tops like candy.
>>

i have often wondered about the many variables when grading and what other internal factors may or may not affect them

glad to see you gave it plenty of thought, kudos

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 6:26AM

So just how rare is type B? I have 4 rolls of BU Washingtons in OBW in my safe with some other "junk" silver. Just for giggles I went and dumped out a roll of 1960's, got the 5x glass out and checked them. I found 19 type A and 21 type B in the roll. Should I be doing the

or is it not that big of a deal?

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 6:58AM

OK, I just checked 2 more rolls. A 1960 with 0 type B's and a 1963 with all 40 coins type B's

1tommy · December 22, 2011 7:42AM

<< So just how rare is type B? I have 4 rolls of BU Washingtons in OBW in my safe with some other "junk" silver. Just for giggles I went and dumped out a roll of 1960's, got the 5x glass out and checked them. I found 19 type A and 21 type B in the roll. Should I be doing the

or is it not that big of a deal? >>

That is kinda amazing to find 21 type B's in one roll I have searched over 80 rolls from mom and dad and only found 4 type b"s Pictures would help and now your on your way to starting a SET of these

Enjoy tom ........ Chipper10 this is a real good thread to check out....type b and c report 21 pages started in 2009

NotSure · December 22, 2011 7:55AM

<< So just how rare is type B? I have 4 rolls of BU Washingtons in OBW in my safe with some other "junk" silver. Just for giggles I went and dumped out a roll of 1960's, got the 5x glass out and checked them. I found 19 type A and 21 type B in the roll. Should I be doing the

or is it not that big of a deal? >>

Of course it's a 'big deal'. It's an even bigger deal depending on the year and the grade. The '56 is THE toughest, followed by the '61 and '62. The dates, from highest pop to lowest pop, is as follows:

'63 with 271 total graded 7 MS66 top pops
'58 with 270 total graded 7 MS66 top pops (which will be changing soon)
'60 with 219 total graded 14 MS66 top tops
'59 with 164 total graded 7 MS66 top pops
'57 with 159 total graded 9 MS67 top pops
'64 with 115 total graded 1 MS67 top pop
'62 with 67 total graded 1 MS67 top pop (one known unattributed MS67 is out there)
'61 with 63 total graded 2 MS66 top pops
'56 with 54 total graded 4 MS66 top pops (which will be changing soon)

And, of course, don't forget the '64-D Type C, where there are 63 total graded. 1 MS66, and 2 MS65's...this is a tough tough coin....seemingly tougher than the '56, but according to pops, not so. And then, there are those graded ATS, ANACS and ICG.....but those TPG's are graded more loosely, for the most part expect 1 grade lower....or perhaps 2 in some cases.

Drepending on the dates, unless your's are MS65 or better (for the '56, '61, '62), or MS66 for the rest, they really aren't worth the grading fees. The'57 and '62 do have MS67 graded examples, the rest of the dates have MS66 as top pops

NotSure · December 22, 2011 7:59AM

<< 

<< So just how rare is type B? I have 4 rolls of BU Washingtons in OBW in my safe with some other "junk" silver. Just for giggles I went and dumped out a roll of 1960's, got the 5x glass out and checked them. I found 19 type A and 21 type B in the roll. Should I be doing the

or is it not that big of a deal? >>

That is kinda amazing to find 21 type B's in one roll I have searched over 80 rolls from mom and dad and only found 4 type b"s Pictures would help and now your on your way to starting a SET of these

Enjoy tom ........ Chipper10 this is a real good thread to check out....type b and c report 21 pages started in 2009 >>

Ahhh, the synopsis thread. I wish ksteelheader/ken were still around these parts.

relicsncoins · December 22, 2011 8:03AM

I have one I need to send it with my next submission. It's currently slabbed in an old ANACS slab, but it should upgrade.

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 8:04AM

Thanks guys, I was not being glib. I did not know this coin existed until I read this thread. Keep in mind I just checked 160 BU Washingtons and found 61 type B's 40 1963's and 21 1960's. I will try to get some pictures after dinner but I don't have a good macro. One of the 1963''s is a nice toned one.

1tommy · December 22, 2011 8:34AM

<< Thanks guys, I was not being glib. I did not know this coin existed until I read this thread. Keep in mind I just checked 160 BU Washingtons and found 61 type B's 40 1963's and 21 1960's. I will try to get some pictures after dinner but I don't have a good macro. One of the 1963''s is a nice toned one. >>

I didn't mean to imply you were being glib, you're a newbie and I was just like you 1 1/2 years ago, had no idea of the b or c type. This has been a great place to keep learning and now looking for the 69 d thru 72d. And I really like those colors relicsncoins. Its always fun to see some of these B's come out in the light . Enjoy tom

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 9:07AM

I'm having trouble posting pictures. When I try to upload the file it say's it is too big.

NotSure · December 22, 2011 9:47AM

<< [qAhhh, the synopsis thread. I wish ksteelheader/ken were still around these parts. >>

Not me, just some ol guy who loved to bicker with anyone and everyone. >>

C'mon now...let's not let this thread deteriorate due to personal conflicts (he IS the one that started the 'synopsis' thread, which opened alot of eyes, and helped us gather info of prices realized), as it has just helped one newb learn about this variety. Please lets keep personal dislikes out of this thread....

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 9:56AM

The local coin shop that I picked my BU rolls up from has been in business since 1955 and has quite a few BU rolls of silver Washingtons. I bought these four rolls for melt + $10 per roll this summer. I guess I should go back and get some more since I got 61 type B's out of 4 rolls of quarters-no?

1tommy · December 22, 2011 10:02AM

<< I'm having trouble posting pictures. When I try to upload the file it say's it is too big. >>

You need to turn on your pm so members can send you private messages. I know I use photobucket to transfer my pictures here. And maybe thats why they are resized already. Have you tried thru photobucket? I wanna see some more pictures of the B's and any C's woohoo tom

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 10:05AM

PM's are turned on.

coinman420 · December 22, 2011 10:22AM

<< OK, I just checked 2 more rolls. A 1960 with 0 type B's and a 1963 with all 40 coins type B's >>

you were very lucky!!! time for a giveaway

i have never found a single one.

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 11:00AM

Well I don't know if the pictures will show up or not and I apoligize for not having a good macro camera yet. another

I gotta get a good camera. It's really hard to tell it's a type B with the picture! picture

ProofArtworkonCircs · December 22, 2011 11:58AM

<<Thanks guys, I was not being glib. I did not know this coin existed until I read this thread. Keep in mind I just checked 160 BU Washingtons and found 61 type B's 40 1963's and 21 1960's. I will try to get some pictures after dinner but I don't have a good macro. One of the 1963''s is a nice toned one. >>

Sounds like beginner's luck. I had it too. In 1973 when I decided to go after B's, I first checked circulating coins. I did not know, then, if clads had type B. About the 20th coin checked was a 1969 D B. Another 4,000 coins yield a second type B 1969 D.

I went to a coin shop and looked through some 1956 rolls. They were all live rolls. There were only a few in each roll. I left with about a dozen. I didn't know what to do with so many, so I gave most of them away.

NotSure · December 22, 2011 12:03PM

<< <<Thanks guys, I was not being glib. I did not know this coin existed until I read this thread. Keep in mind I just checked 160 BU Washingtons and found 61 type B's 40 1963's and 21 1960's. I will try to get some pictures after dinner but I don't have a good macro. One of the 1963''s is a nice toned one. >>

Sounds like beginner's luck. I had it too. In 1973 when I decided to go after B's, I first checked circulating coins. I did not know, then, if clads had type B. About the 20th coin checked was a 1969 D B. Another 4,000 coins yield a second type B 1969 D.

I went to a coin shop and looked through some 1956 rolls. They were all live rolls. There were only a few in each roll. I left with about a dozen. I didn't know what to do with so many, so I gave most of them away. >>

ProofArtworks....you know we're in the same state...if you want to give some more away, feel free to ask my address...or, we could even do lunch...... on me!!

19Lyds · December 22, 2011 2:20PM

You got a 1956 Type B in MS66?

Gawd! How I enviously hate you!

NotSure · December 22, 2011 2:33PM

<< You got a 1956 Type B in MS66?

Gawd! How I enviously hate you!

>>

I could easily say that to YOU, Lee, for grabbing that 64-D Type C....AND you beat me to that 72-D Type B (I believe it was '72-D) by a mere few hours!!! But, this '56 was one nnice coin, unattributed, and a solid 66, IMO, as was the '58....the toning on that one, whooo.

But, don't hate, appreciate!!!!!.......

Took freakin' long enough to find one!

19Lyds · December 22, 2011 2:35PM

<< And, of course, don't forget the '64-D Type C, where there are 63 total graded. 1 MS66, and 2 MS65's...this is a tough tough coin....seemingly tougher than the '56, but according to pops, not so. And then, there are those graded ATS, ANACS and ICG.....but those TPG's are graded more loosely, for the most part expect 1 grade lower....or perhaps 2 in some cases. >>

Make no mistake Ken. The 1964-D is way tougher than the 1956 Type B in uncirculated grades. Of the 63 graded, 41% are AU or less. (26 coins)Only 22% of the 54 1956 B's are undergrades at AU or less (12 coins).

What this means is that dollar wise, it makes more sense to submit a circulated 1964-D Type C than it does to submit a circulated 1956 Type B since most of the undergrade Type B's will not cover the slabbing costs whereas the undergraded Type C's will. If folks submitted their circulated 1956 Type B's, I feel confident that the total pops would change significantly.

19Lyds · December 22, 2011 2:41PM

<< 

<< You got a 1956 Type B in MS66?

Gawd! How I enviously hate you!

>>

I could easily say that to YOU, Lee, for grabbing that 64-D Type C....AND you beat me to that 72-D Type B (I believe it was '72-D) by a mere few hours!!! But, this '56 was one nnice coin, unattributed, and a solid 66, IMO, as was the '58....the toning on that one, whooo.

But, don't hate, appreciate!!!!!.......

Took freakin' long enough to find one! >>

I don't have a 72-D Type B so it wasn't me that beat you. That 64-D Type C was a buy it now which was up for at least 2 hours before I committed. Lot's of hemmin and hawin occured in that 2 hours.

NotSure · December 22, 2011 2:54PM

<< And, of course, don't forget the '64-D Type C, where there are 63 total graded. 1 MS66, and 2 MS65's...this is a tough tough coin....seemingly tougher than the '56, but according to pops, not so. And then, there are those graded ATS, ANACS and ICG.....but those TPG's are graded more loosely, for the most part expect 1 grade lower....or perhaps 2 in some cases.Make no mistake Ken. The 1964-D is way tougher than the 1956 Type B in uncirculated grades. Of the 63 graded, 41% are AU or less. (26 coins)Only 22% of the 54 1956 B's are undergrades at AU or less (12 coins). >>

<< What this means is that dollar wise, it makes more sense to submit a circulated 1964-D Type C than it does to submit a circulated 1956 Type B since most of the undergrade Type B's will not cover the slabbing costs whereas the undergraded Type C's will. If folks submitted their circulated 1956 Type B's, I feel confident that the total pops would change significantly. >>

You will not get an argument from me on this one, Lee, no way. I entirely agree. I've been updating the pops for a little over 2 years, I think. I am well aware of those %'s. Without a doubt, the '64-D C is a tougher coin in MS....but it's tough to get a '56 in 66....

As for grading, for the '56's, I've made 4 MS64's and 2 or 3 of the MS65's, and now this MS66. I also account for an AU50, AU53, an AU55, and an AU58 with the '64-D Type C, along with one or two MS63's and one MS64 (the AU58 wound up residing in a PCGS MS63 after the first crackout and resubmission............right 1tommy??? lol)

I thought it was you that picked up the D mint Type D on ebay..circ, probably would only get a 'gennie' IF our hosts recognized it. I'm gonna have to check, but I was certain it was you.

edited for spelling

NotSure · December 22, 2011 3:01PM

Ah, it was a '69-D Type B you grabbed, it was in Oct. I saw it while it was still active, but passed. Next day, I decided to grab it....gradeable or not, at least I would have hade one. But when I went to grab it, it was gone.

Type2 · December 22, 2011 3:25PM

<< Nice work Notsure. I picked up a 1957 type b off of Ebay last year on the cheap. I remember enjoying the hunt on Ebay looking for one that had been missed. (bad pics from last year.)

>>

Um this one is not a type 'B' but a very nice coin.

Nice picks" NotSure
" going to be alot Ez'er to have them put in the new Type 'B' holder nice going.

chipper10 · December 22, 2011 5:51PM

<< 

<< Nice work Notsure. I picked up a 1957 type b off of Ebay last year on the cheap. I remember enjoying the hunt on Ebay looking for one that had been missed. (bad pics from last year.)

>>

Um this one is not a type 'B' but a very nice coin.

Nice picks" NotSure
" going to be alot Ez'er to have them put in the new Type 'B' holder nice going.

>>

Looks like a type b to me ( but I'm a rookie). There is a defined space between the "e" and "s" on the bottom in states, the leaf extends above the arrow and the leaf above the "a" in dollar looks good to me but is the weakest of the 3 signs but that may just be the picture. What am I missing if this is not a type b? Maybe I didn't find 61 in my safe tonight if this really isn't one because this is how they all look. On the other 99 I checked the leaf ends just below the arrow, the "e" and "s" in states almost appear to touch on the bottom, even at 5x magnification, and the leaf above the "a" in dollar is much weaker struck and does not touch the "a". Am I missing something?

georgiacop50 · December 22, 2011 10:44PM

The brilliant 57 IS a Tyb.

Maybe Type2 has been confused by the mixed up pics in the CPG 4th edition....

erickso1 · December 22, 2011 11:10PM

Notsure,

When are the pics coming?

Come on man!

NotSure · December 23, 2011 2:08AM

<< Notsure,

When are the pics coming?

Come on man! >>

The submission was shipped yesterday, so I don't anticipate on seeing them till Tues or so. Keep in mind, I only have a point 'n shoot, so it'll be tough to get the '58's toning. As I said before, that '58 may need to be imaged by someone that has the right equipment and talent to capture the toning (seems everyone but me has the talent to do that).

erickso1 · December 23, 2011 2:13AM

<< 

<< Notsure,

When are the pics coming?

Come on man! >>

The submission was shipped yesterday, so I don't anticipate on seeing them till Tues or so. Keep in mind, I only have a point 'n shoot, so it'll be tough to get the '58's toning. As I said before, that '58 may need to be imaged by someone that has the right equipment and talent to capture the toning (seems everyone but me has the talent to do that). >>

Alright, I'll wait patiently.

1tommy · December 23, 2011 2:23AM

In the Meantime while were waiting Found this picture in my archieves looks really familiar

Ken you will have to find some board member to photo those I know modcrewman Don does a great job and I am sure there are others maybe closer to you Enjoy tom .....

NotSure · December 23, 2011 2:56AM

I should have commented on this earlier. chipper and georgiacop are 100% correct. That '57 is without a doubt a Type B. The PUP's scream at me...the gap between the E and S in 'STATES', the leaf tip protruding above the arrow tips, the 'IB' in PLURIBUS is framed perfectly by the M in 'UNUM', and the left wing tip definitely is pointed. I would have commented earlier, but with finishing up work for the semester, and TRYING to get some shopping done, never got around to commenting. Now it's off to finish the shopping. First stop, for moms 'day spa' certificate (she's Evil Empire here, and due to multiple back surgeries, hasn't been able to enjoy one for a few years....thanks to Warren/Boom taking her undr his wing, that's where my interest in these came from...we love ya, Warren!!!)

I'm still puzzled at this '64, from 1tommy, coming back as a prof 55

I guess Tom deleted that proof 55..........

<< I have one I need to send it with my next submission. It's currently slabbed in an old ANACS slab, but it should upgrade.

] >>

That is a nic example, relics. What is the current grade??? Is it in an old photo cert, or an older, smaller white holder (I KNOW you wouldn't destroy a photo cert, so I'm guessing it's a small white holder)? I find those small, white holders generally come back a grade lower when sent in for crossover (I'm 5/5 for those coming back 1 pt lower, despite the coin looking like a solid grade that should cross at grade). Or, do ytou plan on sending in raw? Keep in mind, unless it screams 'solidly graded', or 'I'm undergraded', and it is a solid MS66, it MIGHT not be worth the grading fees....with 66 being the top pop for the 1960, the MS65's are a coin toss for grading, due to the price they realize (why is it, that unless it's a top pop, the 1 pt undergrades take such a heavy hit on the price realized...moreso than any 'classic modern'...that's what I call anything from '33 to '65, 'classic modern'...not quite a 'classic'....prior to '33, but not a 'modern'....from '65 to present). Regardless of the grade, or what it might come back as, I love the toning on that, relics, and I'm one of the few in ricko's 'camp for blast white coin lovers'! But, do tell what it IS graded, and what type holder

NotSure · December 23, 2011 3:05AM

<< In the Meantime while were waiting Found this picture in my archieves looks really familiar

Ken you will have to find some board member to photo those I know modcrewman Don does a great job and I am sure there are others maybe closer to you Enjoy tom .....

>>

Tom...I HATE that coin (and 'you suck' for showing it to me...lol

). I had put that one out of my mind!!! lol Don't show it to me again!!! (I deleted it from my files, it ticks me off so much...lol...but I TOLD you it was a 63, and I'm glad we could work out a fair deal..... well, it WAS a fair deal till they gave YOU the 63 on it...LOL...

). It travels a few thousand miles, and goes from an ANACS MS63 to PCGS AU58, back to a PCGS MS63. It HAD to be because YOU were the submitter!!!

I'm STILL way serious about having YOU send in the '58 that DNC, and that '62 that came back MS65....you do seem to have a hot hand, when submitting (except for that '64 proof 55 fiasco! lol).

chipper10 · December 23, 2011 5:56AM

<< I should have commented on this earlier. chipper and georgiacop are 100% correct. That '57 is without a doubt a Type B. The PUP's scream at me...the gap between the E and S in 'STATES', the leaf tip protruding above the arrow tips, the 'IB' in PLURIBUS is framed perfectly by the M in 'UNUM', and the left wing tip definitely is pointed. I would have commented earlier, but with finishing up work for the semester, and TRYING to get some shopping done, never got around to commenting. Now it's off to finish the shopping. First stop, for moms 'day spa' certificate (she's Evil Empire here, and due to multiple back surgeries, hasn't been able to enjoy one for a few years....thanks to Warren/Boom taking her undr his wing, that's where my interest in these came from...we love ya, Warren!!!)

Thanks for the clarification. I'm now 100% confident I have a little over a roll and a half of these in BU condition. I guess they came in bunches because all the rolls I opened were from the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. That is the only possible explanation for finding 21 in one roll and all 40 coins in another.

NotSure · December 23, 2011 7:51AM

<< I should have commented on this earlier. chipper and georgiacop are 100% correct. That '57 is without a doubt a Type B. The PUP's scream at me...the gap between the E and S in 'STATES', the leaf tip protruding above the arrow tips, the 'IB' in PLURIBUS is framed perfectly by the M in 'UNUM', and the left wing tip definitely is pointed. I would have commented earlier, but with finishing up work for the semester, and TRYING to get some shopping done, never got around to commenting. Now it's off to finish the shopping. First stop, for moms 'day spa' certificate (she's Evil Empire here, and due to multiple back surgeries, hasn't been able to enjoy one for a few years....thanks to Warren/Boom taking her undr his wing, that's where my interest in these came from...we love ya, Warren!!!)

Thanks for the clarification. I'm now 100% confident I have a little over a roll and a half of these in BU condition. I guess they came in bunches because all the rolls I opened were from the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland. That is the only possible explanation for finding 21 in one roll and all 40 coins in another.

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I am PRETTYsure ProofArtworkonCircs has alot more info on the 'where these were mostly found' than the obvious 'they are 'P' mint coins, they should be found predominantly in eastern banks'. Thats ONE man that has really done his homework.

1tommy · December 23, 2011 9:04AM

Congrats chipper10 on a great find and maybe a 100 post giveaway

You know Ken You had to go and mention the 1964 Proof 55

I will never show a picture of your old C if you do not mention the proof lol. One of these days I will get that coin in the hands of someone who can tell me if its a proof or not, and that was bought off ebay as a type B another lesson maybe? But thanks to another member dimtorts he sent me another 64 that I need to get in to complete my set, and than its just upgrades from there. I think this has been a fun set to put together and its really not an expensive one And agree there have been many before us to find these and its good to see some new members drawn in Enjoy tom

docg · December 23, 2011 9:26AM

I believe the 56 type B is the toughest to find in any grade, regardless of the population reports. I have dozens of raw 57-64, but only one raw 1956. By the way, the POP for 1956 in PCGS MS66 will go up by two when I get around to having mine attributed. I now have an extra one in PCGS MS65 if anyone is interested. I still need 61 and 64 to complete my MS66 set. They will be tough to come by!

OK, Type B Washies redux, grades just back, coins in hand

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