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Is this an Ike error or a hammer job?

PeacemanPeaceman Posts: 5,098
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Found this one searching last night. As always, thanks ahead of time.


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    EricSanEricSan Posts: 889
    I am certainly not an expert on these, but the closeup image makes the defect look like it happened in a single action. Also, the curvature of the cut seems to match the curvature of the rest of the rim, so I'm guessing it looks like a genuine mint-produced defect.
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like PMD to me.
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    Bigrig52Bigrig52 Posts: 677
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    Bigrig52Bigrig52 Posts: 677


    << <i> >>




    PMD
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a Peter, Paul, and Mary coin.





    "If I had a Hammer, I'd hammer in the morning,
    I'd hammer this Ike in the Evening, all over the Edge.
    I'd hammer out the details, I'd hammer out the Value,
    I'd hammer out the love you see, between a coin and
    a collector, All over this Land."
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,589 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like PMD to me. >>



    Ditto---someone smacked it with a hammer.

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    CEOBIDMCCEOBIDMC Posts: 275
    please hammer, dont hurt them.
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wonder what it hammered forimage
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,133 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like PMD to me. >>

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,038 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's a Peter, Paul, and Mary coin.





    "If I had a Hammer, I'd hammer in the morning,
    I'd hammer this Ike in the Evening, all over the Edge.
    I'd hammer out the details, I'd hammer out the Value,
    I'd hammer out the love you see, between a coin and
    a collector, All over this Land." >>





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    At least some of us are old enough to enjoy this humor, Fred!

    bobimage
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    silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMD

    1997-present

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    PeacemanPeaceman Posts: 5,098
    lol... just hit a crap Ike like 5 times on the rim as hard as I could... there's noooooo way it was a hammer... must have been something else....
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe a squeeze job,instead of hammer job LOL.
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bob,

    Yea, I wondered why no one else thought it
    was clever or funny....that's the proof I need
    (or didn't need) to know just how old I am !
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hummed along with you Fred.
    Pretty good too
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh man...
    Now I am singing other Peter, Paul, and Mary songs
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    gonzergonzer Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For Fred...Mary's voice was just a WEE bit more melodic.
    hammer me this!
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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    Thanks Fred,....

    I can't get.......i'm leaving on , a jet plane peter paul and mary, out of my head now......I owe ya one....on the dock of the bayimage

    Happy Holidays......
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    Harry779Harry779 Posts: 902 ✭✭
    I Got It Too Fred.....

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    I'm just late because i was napping.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    The key I believe is the reeding on the damaged part. Reeding like that can only occur from a normal business strike, normally seated in the collar.

    Additionally, a piece sticking out of the side of the planchet like that would have certainly caused the planchet to not seat in the collar thereby causing an out of collar broadstrike . The 2 and the rim would have also bled into the gap.

    Interesting counterfeit error though.
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    JupitarCoinsJupitarCoins Posts: 2,595 ✭
    Yup its PMD.
    Who cares though its just a Ike dollar and they should never have been minted in the first place.
    Just another lousy coin by the mint!!!
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